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They now want our land for the new autopista!!

  • UK Man
  • October 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM

There are 21 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 7,946 times. The latest Post (October 7, 2019 at 8:06 PM) was by UK Man.

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  • UK Man
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    • October 4, 2019 at 2:44 PM
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    We've known the autopista was coming our way for a while now. We'd browsed the plans for it ages ago and had seen it was going to be built not very far away from our countryside place.

    Yesterday we attended a meeting held by Macris engineers/surveyors sent from Buenos Aires who were holding a question and answer session for those affected plus the usual media pack. What we found out was they'll now need a small part of our land to build the junction to and from the motorway to the town....unbeknown to us this had since been added to the original plan.

    What was interesting to see was how well everyone who attended the meeting reacted. There was no bawling and shouting, stamping of feet or argumentative behaviour even from those who will have the 100 metre wide motorway built through the middle of their land. It was all rather sedate....we were even given coffee and cake....how twee. ^^

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    • October 4, 2019 at 2:53 PM
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    ....we were even given coffee and cake....how twee.

    Clearly an insider job - 'There is a Brit among the crowd, the chori ain't gonna work' ^^

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    • October 4, 2019 at 2:57 PM
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    Surely you must get some compensation UK Man ?

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    • October 4, 2019 at 3:02 PM
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    Clearly an insider job - 'There is a Brit among the crowd, the chori ain't gonna work' ^^

    ^^ I thought the coffee would be crap but It turned out to be rather nice. I refused the cake.

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    • October 4, 2019 at 3:07 PM
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    Surely you must get some compensation UK Man ?

    Even though they've started the extension from Mercedes it won't reach us until 2021....and even then it could all go tits-up. They said they'll be in touch next year.

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    • October 4, 2019 at 9:54 PM
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    ^^ I thought the coffee would be crap but It turned out to be rather nice. I refused the cake.

    You are playing hard to get.

    What's your Achille's heel? Tobacco? Tea? Scotch? :D

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    • October 4, 2019 at 10:24 PM
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    You are playing hard to get.

    What's your Achille's heel? Tobacco? Tea? Scotch? :D

    Chocolate....decent stuff not Argentine. ^^

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    • October 6, 2019 at 10:36 AM
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    I’m just now catching up. You are remarkably good humored about this infringement, UK Man. Will the “small part” of your land be on the edge of your property? And will the autopista itself be far enough away from you that you won’t have to see or hear it? I certainly hope so!

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    • October 6, 2019 at 11:43 AM
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    I’m just now catching up. You are remarkably good humored about this infringement, UK Man. Will the “small part” of your land be on the edge of your property? And will the autopista itself be far enough away from you that you won’t have to see or hear it? I certainly hope so!

    It's early days Rice and as you know nothing is certain here especially with the election coming up. The new plan isn't 100% so is still open to change especially the using our land for the exit/entry. The motorway will definitly be built about 200 metres from the house there.

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    • October 6, 2019 at 11:49 AM
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    Let’s hope that in the many changes that will undoubtedly come about between now and actual construction, someone will decide the route should be changed.

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    • October 6, 2019 at 11:54 AM
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    Thanks Rice. No point in worrying about until it happens is how we're taking it. It's not as if we live there anyway.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 8:22 AM
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    It's a similar situation on the Ruta 8 at Arrecifes and other towns. A few weeks ago I had a lovely ride over there and what used to be a very pleasant two lane major road, is now being converted into a four lane motorway gouging into the countryside.

    Still, I'm not complaining really, since the roads in this country desperately needed attention, without the money being stolen and no work being done.

    Note: this map is from 2016.

    This is the roads plan with a considerable investment:

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    https://ppp.vialidad.gob.ar/proyecto-7/

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    • October 7, 2019 at 9:57 AM
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    What I did notice when I first travelled on Ruta 5 was how widely spaced its boundary fences were. Result being apart from the town bypasses they actually won't need new land to built the motorway as most of it is already there. It enables them to build one side of it for several kms divert traffic on to it then go back and build the other half causing very little disruption. So someone with foresight made sure there was plenty of room for expansion in the future.

    Ruta 5 used to be a quiet pleasant road to use but it's now become a death trap due to the increase in car ownership since I first came. Main problem are those old fully laden lorries crawl along at 30mph leaving a tailback of cars behind them. That leads to driver frustration and risky overtaking manoeuvres which end up with fatal results. At the moment it takes about two hours to get from here just to the outskirts of Buenos Aires which for this day and age is slow.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 10:27 AM
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    Oh my! No wonder you don't come in to BsAs more often, UK Man. I would NEVER make the trip. Two hours of following slow trucks on a 2-lane road would make me completely crazy.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM
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    Oh my! No wonder you don't come in to BsAs more often, UK Man. I would NEVER make the trip. Two hours of following slow trucks on a 2-lane road would make me completely crazy.

    When we go in to the capital we always take the minibus. Average journey time is 3 hours each way which is why we rarely go.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 11:58 AM
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    No wonder. In your place, I would never get to Cap Fed.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 12:03 PM
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    No wonder. In your place, I would never get to Cap Fed.

    Really no need to go in unless it's for medical appointments which thankfully are few and far between for us all. I do like visiting the capital just hate the journey.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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    Note: this map is from 2016.

    This is the roads plan with a considerable investment:

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    https://ppp.vialidad.gob.ar/proyecto-7/

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    Not before time either. I'm glad the Chinese have got the contract for the Ruta 5 motorway as they don't mess about. They've already given one Argentine contractor the heave ho after they made an arse of it. :rolleyes: That was the reason the meeting was held last week.

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    • October 7, 2019 at 3:05 PM
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    Once it's finished, your journey should be much easier then.

    Anyway, I'm going to ride down to Chiv on R5 in the next couple of weeks to see what the road is like nowadays. I usually stop for a chori at Choripaso on the roundabout.

    :ant-stealing-hotdog-smiley-emoticon:

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • October 7, 2019 at 6:25 PM
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    Not to put too fine a point on it, but isn’t that hormiga carrying a superpancho??

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