Posts from serafina in thread „No WhatsApp ...................the end of the World is nigh....“

    OMG, serafina , I’m hurting myself laughing. I can just picture you rolling your eyes, going back to work, and completely missing the punchline of her very rambling message!

    It is not just friends using whatsapp carelessly, but also customers. If they have to write, they are somehow forced to organize their message for it to be effective. If they are speaking, they are scrambling about their feelings and experiences, and deliver bit of information here and there.

    I'd rather have a 20' phone conversation where both parties interact than a 4' monologue from one part. This is not what happens in real life.


    Some people treat whatsapp voice messages like the confession room of the Big Brother and basically do therapy over voice messages.

    Doesn’t WhatsApp have a time limit for voicemail?

    If it has, it is too a long one. My husband routinely receives voice messages that are, combined, longer than 8 minutes. Dale Carnegie must be rolling in the grave....

    The person speaking simply keeps the mic icon pressed. Whatsapp breaks the whole voice recording into 2-minutes audio tracks, which are then played non-stop on the recipient's phone.


    Most transcription softwares, stop at 50 seconds of audio.

    The issue with voice messages is that they are SO easy to grab, that people don't put any care in the effectiveness of that message. Most messages I receive are 80% about "uhmm ehm, maybe, I don't know... I was thinking... I am not sure...". Whereas written communication involves clarity of mind, because it is also harder to write, so you don't want to write a long poem for a brief message.


    I once invited a friend over for dinner on a certain night, and she replied with a 2+ minutes voice message. I hit play but then I started working at the computer because what I was hearing wasn't compelling nor worth my attention. At a certain point, I picked up the phone for something else and the audio stopped. Completely forgetting about it, I moved on with my life, and on that day I spend the afternoon cooking a luscious Arabic dinner. But when my guest didn't arrive, and I messaged to ask about her whereabouts, she said she had told me that she was not free on that day.


    I went back and finally listened to the whole 2+ minutes of voice message, and indeed she said, at the very end, that she couldn't accept my invitation. She spend 2 minutes talking about her stuff, how many things she was busy doing, "oh my gosh" "I don't know how I am gonna do" etc. and delivered the actual reply (I can't come) at the very end.

    In any case, it is true that WhatsApp is largely unknown in the US, even among frequent business travelers, many of whom use Facebook Messenger for international contacts. But Americans’ default service within the 50 states is definitely SMS, a “free” service with almost all phone plans. Why complicate life?

    At first, SMS were not free in Italy. Then phone operators started to offer a certain number of free SMS per day to clients of the same company. Slowly, this was extended to clients of any company.

    There were also business plans with unlimited texts, but most people had the cheapest plan. To save on SMSs, we used abbreviations, contraptions and tricks to save characters, like writing X instead of PER (= for) or GRZ instead of grazie (= thank you), or not leaving spaced among word, and mark words capitalizing each word (TellMeWhatTYouThink).

    When I was a teenager, on December my operator had a "Christmas Card" (yes, it was called like this, in English) that gave you 200 SMS per day to any operator. There were people switching phone operator or getting an additional SIM card just to take advantage of that!

    When Whatsapp made its debut, it was immediately a hit in Italy because we could finally send unlimited texts.

    I think its strength is that it is as simple as a text. In Italy, email became widespread later than in the US, and especially older people never feel the need to get an email address. Whatsapp is more akin to what they already know (SMS).

    You got me for a second , GlasgowJohn!


    A friend told me Whatsapp is not very popular in the US. I wonder if it is used more from people with friends abroad. In Italy, it is very popular but I'd say in Argentina is even more popular and used to make business. It is common to see a 'Haga su pedido por Whatsapp' sign even in the most modest veggie shop. I have never seen that in Italy; I guess it is not used for business like it is in Argentina.