Posts from serafina in thread „US Customs - ignore risks at own peril“

Oh GlasgowJohn, I would have pissed in my pants anyway!

First of all, I don't know what weird rules there could be (or could be made up to put me in a bad spot). For example, in 2007 I was arriving at JFK and they decided to inspect my hand luggage. I had declared I had food with me (I think, I can't recall exactly) or anyway I hadn't crossed all 'NO' on the green entry card I was given on the plane.

So the lady started inspecting my luggage and finds two pandoros. She asked me what were those and I told her 'Traditional Italian xmas cakes' (it was Christmas time, btw!). They come in a cardboard box and she wanted to open it. I offered to help but she said 'hands off'. She just checked they were industrial made and the bag was airtight sealed and let me go.

But another time I was arriving in Boston with my husband to drive south to Florida and visit the East Coast. An Italian friend had offered to let us sleep at his place. Naturally we had asked how we could repay him. He asked for a couple of salamis and added 'Don't worry, last year we came home with a whole ham leg and nobody could care less'. So I had completely forgot about his salami. We had two big suitcases as it was a 40-day trip and we had been packing for two weeks, so we had forgotten about the treats for our friend.

Of course we arrive in Boston, pass immigration and CBP stopped us asking if we had anything to declare. We said no, but their dog said otherwise. They inspected my husband's bag and found the salami.

My husband was visibly shaken, but unlike me (the pant pisser) he started being upset because the officer started challenging him and calling him a liar and saying 'so you lied, you lied to my face.'

My husband replied he didn't know that it was not permitted (these were industrial salami, just not vacuum sealed) and the agent warned him there was a 200 USD fine or whatever. Now, my husband is a sweet guy, but don't touch his wallet... he started getting angry and became all red. He bit his tongue, though, and repeated profusely he was sorry, to take the salami, and that he wouldn't repeat the same mistake. Eventually the officer let us go, but he asked for my husband's passport and entered something in his system. Maybe a strike or a note of the inspection.

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I don't think there's a group outside the criminal class that I dislike more than border and customs agents. These are ordinary people with little actual power, but within their role they are absolute. I am not sure what goes on in their training that makes them become such assholes.

I have had some interesting times with these people in UK airports.

The discretionary part is what really puts me off because I have no idea of what could happen. If there was a detailed list of what can happen and what you can do, I would be happy.

For example, what was that limbo the journalist was kept in? He wasn’t detained so he couldn’t call a lawyer, yet he wasn’t free to go either.
What could have happened? Is there a judge at the airport to decide case by case?

Or you are deported immediately but can seek legal help from the outside? Or are you released paying a fine and given a few hours to sort your things and leave?

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I don't have a problem with sharing my opinions on this forum. Given the level of scrutiny at border crossing in the US, I don't think it is wise to be vocal about one own's positions on US politics or cross-border policy on the Internet. Especially if you are a foreigner.

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You are a student of Maimonides or Duns Scotus, ben ? Occam’s Razor is not a common reference.

The journalist in question presented a cocky visage to the all-powerful agents, who decided to show him who was boss. (I’m thinking of Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke) The agents undoubtedly felt empowered by the outrageous pronouncements of the current president, that the press is the “enemy of the people.”

But his was a special case. This could easily be the fate of anyone picked out of the crowd for bullying. For those of us who remember the US as the Land of the Free, it is heartbreaking to realize that members of this forum do not feel free to express their opinions for fear of governmental repercussions under a repressive president.

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Ben’s wealth of knowledge spans across several disciplines - that we know! But we study Occam’s razor in high school, don’t you?

Now, remembering what that means after all these years is another thing 😅
Luckily we were given Wikipedia!

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I don't feel comfortable to comment publicly on the article in question, given it could be used against me one day.

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The other day I was reflecting on how we are vulnerable the most in our home country, as there is nobody else to call for help.

My reflections was on having acquired Argentine citizenship and the desaparecidos.

What if someone decides to hold something against me, now?

I did pursue citizenship to not be separated from my husband ever, and to have the right to stay here indefinitely (in case of war, in case of my husband's death etc.). and never pondered the downsides. They looked the same the residency ones.