Posts by lazypanda

Thank you Rice, I appreciate it

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I wish I could help you with that question, lazypanda , but I couldn’t even intelligently speculate. Good luck to you!

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I don’t think that such a small claim could prevent you from leaving the country. Also, did they only tell you that they would start a criminal case (? Seems excessive to me, maybe a civil case) or did they actually notify you in a legally valid and official way (were you served?)

They actually notified me the official way.
As they're both re/max agents and lawyers, I'm guessing it's a necessary step for them to take time off work, pretending they've been abused or what not. So hey get some type of reward or compensation. I'm not on that energy vibration level to guess one's ways of survival thinking, yet at a higher level, I can only wish them well in the end, it's quite a miserable life one is living for him to proceed this way.

As per the "serve" question. I only had a message on my argentine whatsapp number. The number is on my firiend's name. But he didn't get any notification.

From what I understand, there is no going forward with any case without making a declaration or confirm to the justice that you rather keep silent. So it's at this stage. If ever I get back there, I'm suspecting thjey'll arrest me just so I make a declaration, then they'd free me until the judge makes a call/hearing takes place.

It's a shame these guys operate this way, they probably thought I was a foreigner and was rich. I don't know where that assumption would come from but they definitely messed with the wrong guy, I cannot tolerate abuse, scammers or robberies. These guys are simply criminals. And lawyers...I mean... maybe that's why they're criminals, they would know the law is on their side maybe.

This is great information guys, I would go the "official Martilleros" way now.

The leats I can do.

Yet again, as someone mentionned prior, they have litle appreciation for time, not me, really, its's energy draining and I would doubt that it'd be because of the money to get back becaue it's a criminal case at this point, they stated I made them do something the didn't want to do jajaja I mean how is this possible, such bad faith. It's like someone trying to mug you on the street, you force him not to and then he sues you saying you made him do something he didn't want to do, i's so ridiculous, I just don't have time for this but will check the "official Martilleros" way when I can.

It is sad though how even Argentines can't trust themselves with their own people, unfortunately this generalization makes the country look so bad while I know some people are doing business the right way, most of them have been outside the country and have seen different. Well, it'll keep you guys posted.

I'm wondering, with this case if I can enter the country or would they arrest me at the airport, or maybe not this, but won't allow me to leave the country afterwards.? ....

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It's a case of 'who you know' when it comes to anything to do with the law here. Especially when it comes to avoiding fees. A decent bottle of malt whsky keeps them sweet.

If this is the case, then I should get a lawyer that knows the judge rather than one that knows the law...
Too bad these 2 re/max agents were lawyers as well, might explain a few things.

I'm wondering how long is a case open before it's closed in this case.?
I would strongly doubt that it'll be reported out of the country, not for 400$ at least. Scammers... in Argentina, now I understand why Argentines themselves are so worried about pretty much everything

Are you serious.! This is insane. especially for a car type amount.
What a country.! Unbelieveable, hope you guys got some money back, I mean, how slow can the judicial system be in finding someone and applying the law.?!!

Confirmation/Validation on ReMax reputation is good information as well, thank you aficionado.!
BoyCotting is a great consumer powered way to earse these type of corporate practices/cultures from the planet. Best of sundays to all.

I was there on a tourist Visa, and I got my money back by myself the next day. I closed the door on both agents and left with the keys, hence the lawsuit. They tried robbing me, I mean, they tried once they couldn't, then trust is lost, the next day I just bluntly asked for my money, no "hola" and left them inside, this is insane, I was scared for my life, almost questionning if they were real ReMax agents because the company has good reputation in other parts of the world. I guess they finally met one that stood up, they were shitting their pants thinking dramatically that something would happen to them, as if a tourist would waste his time for 400$, I just lost my patience, it's too many scams in the country, I'm sure they did it to others, otherwise they wouldn't have tried with me.

It's great to hear their reputation amongst expats, gives me hope, can't believe I have to face this non sense, hopefully it'll be fine with the law, unless they're so big and the judge might have a cousin in the business, just speculating here.

I have a lawyer now which should be fine although i have had costs ranging from 400$ to 3000$. Obviously an outlier here. Current lawyer is asking for 500$ to take on the case, does it actually make sense to pay that much for criminal lawyers in Argentina.?

Thank you guys for the answers, it's absolutely helpful.
We'll see what happens and will keep you guys posted. They probably built the case with extra BS, maybe they broke some stuff in the apartment saying I did it or whatever...god knows... + it's 2 lawyers so I'm guessing they thought it through.

Yes I did pay 20% as well, actually she asked for 25% --- should've been travelling with a 3rd world country passport, probably wouldn't have tried that 25% on me.

I actually deposited the commission to her personal account at the bank, not remax's.
And back then, last year, the law allowed the deal for short term rentals to be negociated between usually 10% and 20%. Although, btw, lots of illegal, random made up real estate agents with no liscence have been operating this way renting to expats for say 1 months commission on 3 months term.
If that can help. That market was already kind of a self regulated one in its obscurity, I wouldn't think it changed with Milei, although if I undertand well, Inventory has increaed lately and prices dropped.

2 remax agents tried robbing me of my 400$ deposit, they told me they would give me bhakc my deposit and tried through different tactics and threats to keep it. In the end, they handed it back to me, but they're suing me with criminal charges Código Penal Nacional - Artículo 142.

I will go to trial with them as they're suing me but they tried robbing me, I just don't understand this logic from an ethical perspective but can understand it form a legal strategy perspective.

I'm looking for advice on how would you guys solve this case or how you'd go about it.?
also if it's something common in Argentina that people sue you like this, especially as a foreigner, they're somehow all trying to take advantage of our lack of understanding which I understand in businessm but this is not business, this is a theft.