Posts by Carlos

    I wish to send to the forum the history if this brilliant woman of Scot ancestry


    Cecilia Grierson (22 November 1859 – 10 April 1934) was an Argentine physician, reformer, and prominent Freethinker. She had the added distinction of being the first woman to receive a Medical Degree in Argentina.


    Cecilia Grierson was born in Buenos Aires in 1859 to Jane Duffy, an Irish Argentine woman, and John Parish Robertson Grierson. Her paternal grandfather, William Grierson, was among the Scottish colonists who had arrived in Buenos Aires in 1825 to settle Santa Catalina-Monte Grande.This is a proof of the successful immigration of Scots in Argentina.


    Grierson spent her early childhood on her family’s estancia in Entre Ríos Province, where her family were prosperous farmers. At the age of six she was sent to attend English and French schools in Buenos Aires, but had to return home on the early death of her father. She assisted her mother in managing a country school, and eventually taught there. Grierson returned to Buenos Aires to enroll at the Nº 1 Girls Normal School, where she graduated as a teacher in 1878. She taught for a number of years at a nearby boys’ school, and decided to study medicine.

    Medical career


    Grierson faced entrenched opposition to her enrollment in medical school in 1883, and was asked to provide written justification for her wish to become a doctor. Another woman, Elida Passo, had entered the School of Medicine to pursue a degree of Doctor of Pharmacy, becoming in 1885 the first Argentine woman to earn a university diploma in Argentina.[2] Passo overcame numerous rejected applications and returned to earn a Medical Degree. She became seriously ill while in the fifth year of medical school, however, and died in 1893 without a diploma.[1]


    Women were barred from the School of Medicine at the nation's four universities in operation at the time; indeed, few women in 19th century Argentina enrolled in formal secondary education. Grierson, however, was an exceptional student, volunteering as an unpaid assistant at the university laboratory, and in 1885, beginning her internship under the auspices of the Public Health Department. She organized an ambulance service while with the department, introducing the use of alarm bells (equivalent to today’s sirens), an innovation that until then had been exclusive to the fire brigade. Her work during an 1886 cholera epidemic garnered her widespread acknowledgment for her efficient work in caring for patients in the Isolation Unit (in present-day Hospital Muñiz).[1]


    Grierson was also a pioneer in kinesiology. She introduced a course in massage therapy at the School of Medicine, and later articulated her ideas in her textbook, Practical Massage. The book was widely read and played a key role in the development of modern kinesiology in Argentina. She joined the staff at the important Hospital Rivadavia in 1888, and graduated in 1889 upon her successful defense of her thesis on gynecology: Histero-ovariotomías efectuadas en el Hospital de Mujeres desde 1883 a 1889 (Ovary Extractions at the Women’s Hospital, 1883-1889). Grierson thus became the first woman in Argentina to earn a Medical Degree.


    She joined the medical staff at Hospital San Roque (today Hospital Ramos Mejía) upon graduation. She also offered classes in anatomy at the Academia de Bellas Artes, and provided free psychological and learning consultations for children with special needs, particularly blind and deaf mute children. She also finished her textbooks: La educación del ciego (The Education of the Blind), Cuidado del enfermo (Patient Care) and Primer Tratado Nacional de Enfermería (First National Nursing Textbook).


    Grierson founded the first nursing school in Argentina, the Nursing School of the Hospital Británico de Buenos Aires, in 1890. Student nurses attended classes on childcare, first aid and treatment of patients. This initiative led, in 1891, to the creation of the Nursing School, which Grierson directed until 1913. This success helped make her a founding member of the Argentine Medical Association (1891). Encouraged by the reports of the Third International Conference of the Red Cross on first aid training, she created the Argentine First Aid Society in 1892, publishing a book on the care of accident victims.[3]


    Taking part in 1892 in the first cesarean section performed in Argentina, she founded the National Obstetrics Association in 1901, and its journal, Revista Obstétrica. She also gave gymnastics lessons at the School of Medicine and mentored the few other female students that had enrolled; one of these, Armandina Poggetti, in 1902 became the first woman in Argentina to earn a degree in Pharmacology.[3]


    Grierson founded the Society for Domestic Economy in 1902. This organization, later renamed the Technical School for Home Management, was the first of its kind in the country, and in 1907, she instituted the Domestic Sciences course at the Buenos Aires Girls’ Secondary School (the first such course in Argentina). Following her 1909 report on improving conditions in Europe regarding education, living standards, and the availability of vocational schools, the National Education Council approved a curriculum for vocational schools in Argentina. Grierson published Educación técnica de la mujer (Women’s Technical Education), introducing the study of day care in these schools. She held teaching positions in the School of Fine Arts and the National Secondary School for Girls, where she taught from its inception in 1907. The Argentine government named her as a representative to the First International Eugenics Conference, held in London in 1912.[1]

    Grierson was publicly honored in 1914 on the occasion of the silver jubilee of her graduation, an homage repeated in 1916, when she retired from academia. She lived in scenic Los Cocos, Córdoba Province, during her retirement, practicing family medicine on a largely pro bono basis and teaching. She inaugurated a school in the rural town, as well as a residence for teachers and artists. She was allowed credit for only a few years' service upon her retirement and received but a modest pension; she lamented most, however, that she was never offered the position of Chair of her alma mater's School of Medicine. Grierson never married.The noted academic and activist died in Buenos Aires in 1934, at age 74, and was buried in the city's British Cemetery.


    The nursing school she established in 1891 was renamed for her following her death. A street in Los Cocos and one in the newest district of Buenos Aires, Puerto Madero, were also named in her honor.

    Your commnent is highly funny and intelligent.

    What I mean is that nowadays we are inside a trend of fostering including people, and anjimal specimens as well. To prevent the allowance of alligators in the tube could be a case of discrimination, right?

    Perhaps the INADI of Argentina, an institution which is always watching the discrimination

    issues, will support your alligator.

    Serafina wrote:

    We are resented, of course. People our parents' age are now in place of powers and aren't offering us the same working conditions and salaries they were offered back in their days.


    This means that I was nor erred in my observation.

    But you are now in another country, and it seems that the future will be better. Therefore having children is possible. I have one son and one daughter, and now they give me 13 grandchildren.

    Remember that talents are to be translated by inheritance. As I assume, you and your husband are proactive, intelligent persons. We need your descendants. There is much to do in Argentina, and we are out of the wars and problems that now Europe has to endure.

    To tell the truth, I also detected a certain resentment from the young people regarding the elders, who have good pensions and have enough money provided by the welfare state that grew in Italy between 1950 and 1990. Young people cannot find decent jobs, and this makes them very unconfortable. I even think (perhaps with some malicious thought) that young people are expecting the quick death of the elders, to occupy their current position.

    Also, this perhaps is the reasons why young people do not like to have children. And this I understand as well.

    As the unique argentinean member of this forum, I dutifully give thanks for your eulogies, perhaps undeserved.

    I could say the same thing about the United States. I was living in the "deep America", West Virginia and Kentucky, and the people acted exactly as you describe our attitude towards foreigners.

    I was not acquainted about the antecedents of this person.

    The only certain thing I believe is in my recent travel to Italy, in the public transport half of the people were clearly not italians, a type of person that I know very well, as I am a descendant. On the other hand, I could see the growing market of Pet's equipment to be used with cats and dogs. And this is because young married couples prefers to have pets than kids. They prefer waste their incomes in travels, leisures and so forth than having kids.

    More like 'Europe's Muslim problem', reading between the lines and yes, it appears to be an unstoppable force changing the faces of many nations.

    I don't like it, never have and well remember last year when we stayed at a hotel in Fulham Broadway, London with the street and market being populated 100% by Muslims or other non white ethnics.

    I don't like either. I visited the UK in 1964 and in 1980, and I have been told that things have changed. The UK that I eagerly admire seems to be only in my imagination. That perhaps I like to see "Downton Abbey" and "Upstairs, Downstairs" several times.

    Serafina said:

    The sentimental one is because I share several cultural traits with Argentina and I am at ease here. Though there are days of discomfort and dreaming to move back to the old continent, I am lucky and happy to be here most of the times. Argentina has switched places with my native land and it is now my home.

    Thank you very much for your feelings about my country. Even with a myriad of problems, we try to receive people from abroad with the best will.

    Mr Splinter: you wrote:

    In a healthy situation the father would have an opinion and it would be taken into account. However, if a woman is raped she has every right to decide what to do and let's face it, she's not going to consult the rapist.


    The present Argentine Law of 1921 is actually including this exception, therefore we are sharing the same opinion.

    If we are going to be realist, murder and robbery will always exist. so following this logic, we must legalize it and allow it to be made officially.

    As regards women, they have to accept their condition and knowing that what they have in their wombs is not exactly a part of them. It is another human being. Their duty is to protect and nourish this being. And also remember that the 50 % of their genetics features are not from the woman; some man is involved, as I presume. I never see an abortion law which asks the father of the unborn his opinion. Seems to be infair, after all.

    What, politicians lie? I am shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!

    Those who lies are not only the politicians precisely. It is all the lobby pro abortion that lies. And not only from Argentina. The hungarian magnate George Soros is behind all this move.

    With his millions of dollars, he can twist the will of our mainly weak and corrupt politicians, that can change his vote for an everlasting future plenty of richness. Remember that we are in Latin America. Honesty and morals are not common here. There are no heroes which could resist the temptation.

    The culture of death is advancing. The next step will be the mandatory euthanasia for elder people which cannot be sustained to their pensions system.

    This world was foreseen by two English writers: Aldous Huxley (A Brave New World) and George Orwell (1984). I have read both books in my youth and at that time their predictions seemed Science fiction. Unfortunately, they are "ad Portas" (latin from being the enemy at the gates of Rome.

    I insist that the 500.000 abortions in Argentina is a imagined number, not prooved by any statistics. The same Minister of Heath, Dr Rubinstein, recognized that in the last year there was only approximately 35 deaths of women by ill.practiced abortion. That means a ratio of 0,009 % of deaths regarding the alleged numer of abortion. That is a very, very low ratio. Are the abortist doctors here so efficient and well prepared to be so good?


    I think that the 500.000 abortion number is much alike the 30.000 "desaparecidos" in Argentina-

    The number of the desaparecidos was only 8500, following the Commission which produced the "Nunca más" (Never more) document. And I assume that between those 8500, are many still living exiled in Europe. Theur relatives got an indemnity of about U$S 250.000 per person.


    Be aware that this discussion in fueled by many strong interests which want to promote and legalize the massacre of many human beings.And to lie is a very efficient weapon, as Dr Goebbels did in Germany.

    The 500,000 abortions in Argentina is only one more fake new. There is no scientific evidence.

    There are a lot of interest in this country to allow abortion to use the phetus organs to sell to people who needs some kind of cellular implants. It's all a dirty business.

    As regards Dr Albino, I agree that he was very naive and imprudent to say that, but many people do not know that he has recovered 40.000 people from malnutrition and disease, and this why the government helps him. Of course, he is Catholic, and Catholicism is a BIG TARGET to all enemies of this religion.

    A big target is easy to hit, of course.

    Another issue to remark is that against abortion is not only a concern of Cathoics. Protestants are doing the same. They made a great gathering yesterday Saturday August 4th.

    I agree — Córdoba by car is best, especially with congenial friends.


    But I’d love a $16 fare to Mendoza or Iguazú.... I guess it would really be a stretch to hope they might have this kind of giveaway fare to Patagonia, but one can dream.

    If they are offering these bargains to Cordoba, perhaps they will extend these advantages to Mendoza and Iguazu Falls.

    That is a good new, of course. I cannot understand if a flight with those prices could be profitable for an airline.

    As regards if it is for residents only, this I cannot know just now.

    Anyway, to appreciate Cordoba it's better to go by car, as you need to go inside the mountains and there are no airports for short flights. Bur for stay only in the city, is a good bargain,

    Carlos, you have always seemed somewhat skeptical that the government would ever successfully make its case and bring her to justice. Do you feel that the notebooks will be a game changer?

    The notebooks have a lot of very interesting data. Of course, the judge will need to have more evidencies. That depends on the political will. For Macri, this is not a good new. He prefers to keep CFK not in jail, because the reaction of the Peronists (the stubborn ones) will blame him, and not the Justice.