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Argentinian language - yes, it's Castilian Spanish but...

  • serafina
  • March 7, 2026 at 9:30 PM

There are 8 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 200 times. The latest Post (March 10, 2026 at 9:43 AM) was by aficionado.

  • serafina
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    • March 7, 2026 at 9:30 PM
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    Over coffee with a local client, I was reflecting that soon I am going to meet the 12 years mark in Buenos Aires. I feel like I have just arrived, on certain days, and that it is time to move forwards, on others.

    One thing I think I failed, is integrating by language. Truth to be told, I thought I'd be bilingual by now. Instead, I hit my plateau 4 years after arriving here, and now I am just slowing adding up new words and idioms. Something I have never worked on was my pronunciation. Even after 4 years of university, no course was provided to polish pronunciation and I just tried my best by ears. However, studies have shown that after childhood, our ear cannot physically hear some frequencies/sound, and hence we aren't able to imitate/articulate those by imitation like we did when we learned to speak from our parents.

    The hardest words to pronounce are those with several aspirated sounds like mosca, moscato, bosque, joya, and the dreaded "y" as in cónyuge. Second place goes to accent in certain words, like cerebro... I always have to think twice - I know the answer, but I need a second to get there.

    I am disappointed that after years of studying the language (and not just being exposed to it), I still find it difficult, or at least it takes me some (mental) effort. I can hold a conversation, but not a 8-hour asado. My brain calls quit at a certain point. In technical terms, this is called cognitive fatigue.


    What's the hardest word to pronounce or what challenges are you still facing, when speaking Spanish? And how did you learn it?

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    • March 8, 2026 at 12:22 AM
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    What's the hardest word to pronounce or what challenges are you still facing, when speaking Spanish? And how did you learn it?

    I gave up trying to speak Spanish years ago after nobody knew what the hell I was saying whenever I spoke it.

  • serafina
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    • March 8, 2026 at 9:56 AM
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    I asked my husband to please correct my pronunciation as he says it sucks, as there is no point in saying it sucks without helping me improve.

    There wasn't a single word I was saying correctly. The vowel too open or too close, the s too strong or too weak, the stress in the words wrong, the aspirated J not aspirated enough (we don't have this sound in Italian, at all)

    Overall, a very frustrating feedback and my efforts to correct it were unsuccessful. I couldn't simply hear the differences he was talking about.

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    • March 8, 2026 at 10:52 AM
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    We speak English at home because I'm a bit lazy, but it often depends on the conversation we're having. I do still have difficulty knowing where to put the accents and haven't got my head around the rule yet.

    Genders are also quite tricky, but there are rules there too.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • March 8, 2026 at 11:59 AM
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    Genders are also quite tricky, but there are rules there too.

    Genders are all by memory, and they change depending on the romance language.

    I always mix up the salt's gender, which is la sal (feminine) in Spanish but il sale (masculine) in Italian. Of course, I remember there is a difference with that word, but when I am speaking freely, it comes out wrong.

    I have the same issue with the two TH sounds in English (none of which exist in Italian). When I watch videos of English teachers, it is all crystal clear. When it is time to use it, then my mind goes blank.

    In fact, I gave the incorrect answer during the phonetics and phonology exam when I was asked to describe phonetically the TH sound in three. It was quite embarrassing as 1-2-3, along with hello and goodbye, are the very first words one learns. I still passed (the exams was quite extensive and had more questions), but I am still displeased with my performance on that one, as the word three is very common.

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    • March 9, 2026 at 11:14 PM
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    Language is such a complex thing, requiring vocabulary acquisition, reading and hearing comprehension, writing and speaking competence, grammar and punctuation mastery, and a firm grasp on phonetics and pronunciation, as basic building blocks.

    serafina , you have such a keen ear for languages that you expect a lot of yourself. To me, you are extremely accomplished in multiple languages!

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    • March 9, 2026 at 11:26 PM
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    Language is such a complex thing, requiring vocabulary acquisition, reading and hearing comprehension, writing and speaking competence, grammar and punctuation mastery, and a firm grasp on phonetics and pronunciation, as basic building blocks.

    serafina , you have such a keen ear for languages that you expect a lot of yourself. To me, you are extremely accomplished in multiple languages!

    Was thinking the same myself. She can probably even speak Parliamo Glasgow.

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    • March 9, 2026 at 11:30 PM
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    Was thinking the same myself. She can probably even speak Parliamo Glasgow.

    I’m quite confident she could!

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    • March 10, 2026 at 9:43 AM
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    Quote from serafina

    Genders are all by memory, and they change depending on the romance language.

    I always mix up the salt's gender, which is la sal (feminine) in Spanish but il sale (masculine) in Italian. Of course, I remember there is a difference with that word, but when I am speaking freely, it comes out wrong.

    You are already well past me with the professional ability to translate documents. to/from English, Italian and Spanish, right?
    SNL skit recently parodied the origins of the language.

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