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Immigrating to Argentina, from permanent tourists to actual immigrants

  • serafina
  • December 17, 2025 at 12:41 PM

There are 8 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 386 times. The latest Post (December 17, 2025 at 10:55 PM) was by UK Man.

  • serafina
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    • December 17, 2025 at 12:41 PM
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    When I first arrived in Argentina, over a decade ago, it was very common to hear the word permatourists as in people who entered Argentina on a tourist visa and overstayed, often effectively living in Argentina on a permanent basis, but without the paperwork. The practice was well known and apparently tolerated. The easiest fix was to take a brief trip abroad, usually to Uruguay, and re-enter Argentina for a fresh 90-day tourist visa.

    Then I began reading about immigration officers at the border starting to reprimand this practice. In most case, it was just a verbal warning. In a few cases, people were granted conditional entry, with a set time to leave. Never in my lifetime I had heard that border control was such soft. Having had to deal with US Borders and Customs, I don't take the border crossing lightly. I did one trip to Colonia close to my 3-month expiration date, and then I got married just days before my second 3-month tourist visa was up.

    Some permatourists had bought properties or effectively lived here with all of their belongings. Now I am reading about permatourists being stopped and banned for 5 years from entering Argentina. Some on FB are complaining about it - they claim the previous attitude toward permatourists implied it was free of consequence to overstay. Some of the banned people did overstay and even paid the overstay fee. Never it was mentioned that paying the overstay fee would have carried consequences in the future. It was the general understanding that paying the fee would wash your sin away.

    Meanwhile, over 23,000 Russians moved to Argentina in 2022 alone, one year after the Russian-Ukranian war begun. It seems that those who actually stayed were just 10% of those who arrived. And that in 2025 the new citizenship laws introduced by Milei, and the higher cost of living in dollars drove away a lot of families, who preferred Brazil and Spain to Buenos Aires.

    My question is - of those of this forum who have been for several years - did you ever consider naturalizing an Argentinian citizen? As far as I know, I am the only one of this forum who naturalized. At times, I have regretted it. But I was super convinced it was a good idea when I naturalized.

    Russian settling in Argentina - data from the Immigration Bureau.

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    • December 17, 2025 at 1:00 PM
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    serafina , you say that at times you regret having naturalized. Why is that?

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    • December 17, 2025 at 1:03 PM
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    My permanent residency gives me most of the benefits of citizenship, so I'll stay as I am.

    I'd also add that I never did the 90 day run to Uruguay but entered through the offical channel and the three year DNI procedure, although some palms were greased.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 17, 2025 at 2:51 PM
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    serafina , you say that at times you regret having naturalized. Why is that?

    I'd also like to know. Was the brain transplant a step too far?

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    • December 17, 2025 at 4:56 PM
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    serafina , you say that at times you regret having naturalized. Why is that?

    Because I wasn't aware of the tax implication for citizens, even if not living in Argentina. It is similar to the US - you can never forget home (or home can never forget you).

    I naturalized mainly because to practice here it is required to hold citizenship (if naturalized, at least for 5 years). I didn't know that it could be challenged in court for discrimination...I learned it only last year. Also, it cannot be renounced, unlike US or. Italian citizenship. It can only be revoked in case of very grave crimes, but I am not willing to go down that path :D

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    • December 17, 2025 at 6:23 PM
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    To practice what here?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • serafina
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    • December 17, 2025 at 8:04 PM
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    Translation as a traductor público.

  • aficionado
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    • December 17, 2025 at 10:00 PM
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    Quote from serafina

    My question is - of those of this forum who have been for several years - did you ever consider naturalizing an Argentinian citizen?

    Occasionally I think about it. Though for no particular reason at the moment. For now happy to be only a permanent resident.

  • UK Man
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    • December 17, 2025 at 10:55 PM
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    Occasionally I think about it. Though for no particular reason at the moment. For now happy to be only a permanent resident.

    I asked my wife if there would be any advantages in it. She said ''no'' rather loudly. So I never asked again.

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