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The future of electric cars?

  • GlasgowJohn
  • June 23, 2025 at 4:01 PM

There are 11 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 611 times. The latest Post (July 4, 2025 at 1:45 AM) was by aficionado.

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • June 23, 2025 at 4:01 PM
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    In the last ten days I have heard two different stories of batteries causing fires in electric cars that led to the total destruction of the cars

    Apparently the love affair of many Argentine town counicils to put unmarked speed bumps all over the place is causing costly damage to the batteries of electric cars which in the huge majority of cases are located in the base of the car.

    Today an argentine car enthisiast sent me this peice which I have translated with the help of IA.

    What do you all think?

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    God exists… the scarcity of rare minerals is shutting down electric car plants

    For years we’ve been told that the future was electric, autonomous, green. That combustion engines were the enemy and that anyone who didn’t adapt would be left behind. Billions in subsidies, gigafactories, battery startups, and an army of influencers promoting the “sustainable revolution.”

    And yet, right at this very moment, several electric car plants are shutting down due to a lack of rare components like, lithium, copper, and other strategic minerals.

    The future is now postponed by reality.

    The electric car isn’t so clean when you have to dig into the ground

    To manufacture a single electric vehicle, minerals like neodymium, dysprosium, lithium, cobalt, nickel, and manganese are needed. All of them concentrated in just a few geopolitically sensitive regions: China, the Congo, and the lithium triangle in South America.

    With demand skyrocketing and supply constrained by conflicts, protectionism, and environmental disasters, global production is starting to wobble. Some call it a bottleneck, but in reality, it’s a structural knot.

    The paradox of “green progress” - Companies like Ford, GM, Rivian, and even BYD have had to pause or reduce production. Not for lack of demand, but for lack of raw materials. The paradox is brutal: we’ve embarked on an energy transition that depends on resources as scarce as the ones we intended to leave behind.

    Gigafactories don’t work without graphite. Batteries can’t be assembled without refined lithium. And electric motors don’t spin without rare earth magnets.

    What if God were a systems engineer?

    Maybe this scarcity is the reminder we needed:

    👉 Innovation without resource sovereignty is just disguised dependency.

    👉 Transition without planning is just Silicon Valley marketing.

    👉 And replacing oil with minerals doesn’t guarantee climate justice.

    Perhaps there’s something “divine” in this technological collapse. A slap of reality to stop speculative madness, restore industrial humility, and rethink our path.

    Because the future isn’t just electric.

    It has to be smart, accessible, and truly sustainable.

  • Rice
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    • June 23, 2025 at 6:27 PM
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    I’m sorry, GlasgowJohn , but I’m just not well enough informed about all of this to make an intelligent comment.

    That said, I will say that several red flags popped up when I read it. Is the lithium supply as limited as the opinion piece implies? From the beginning, the not-too-subtle bias makes me wonder what connection the writer has to the oil industry.

    When the reader is wondering if the argument is factual, the writer has lost his audience.

  • UK Man
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    • June 23, 2025 at 7:41 PM
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    I know bugger all about it but have to say I wouldn't be in any rush to buy one even if they were cheaper. Not until it's been proved beyond doubt they are superior in every area to petrol/diesel/gas powered cars.

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    • June 23, 2025 at 8:25 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    I’m sorry, GlasgowJohn , but I’m just not well enough informed about all of this to make an intelligent comment.

    That said, I will say that several red flags popped up when I read it. Is the lithium supply as limited as the opinion piece implies? From the beginning, the not-too-subtle bias makes me wonder what connection the writer has to the oil industry.

    When the reader is wondering if the argument is factual, the writer has lost his audience.

    Rice , there is a worldwide shortage of lithium.

    So it kind of makes sense to me.

  • Rice
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    • June 23, 2025 at 11:02 PM
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    I do know of the shortage of lithium, but am not at all sure of the reason. Very limited amount? Or limits on the mining of it?

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    • June 23, 2025 at 11:16 PM
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    Limited supplies and increasing worldwide demand

  • Splinter
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    • June 24, 2025 at 8:43 AM
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    And yet the likes of Jaguar are going all out electric.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Rice
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    • June 24, 2025 at 11:48 AM
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    I read this week that hybrid cars, pretty much ignored once electric cars arrived on the scene, are getting a second look by car makers.

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    • June 24, 2025 at 11:55 AM
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    I read this week that hybrid cars, pretty much ignored once electric cars arrived on the scene, are getting a second look by car makers.

    I drove a Nissan hybrid in Spain last year and it was amazingly economical.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • June 24, 2025 at 12:00 PM
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    How is the battery placed in a hybrid? And the fuel tank?

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    • June 24, 2025 at 12:53 PM
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    https://www.oremtoyota.com/service/servic…c%20information.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • July 4, 2025 at 1:45 AM
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    The Toyota Prius hybrid was fairly popular in US. 2005-2010, after their first editions the few years before that. We rented one for a few weeks of western mountains and Pacific coast road tripping in 2012. I have no idea why it took so long for hybrid to start selling here in Argentina.

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