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English grammar

  • Rice
  • January 14, 2025 at 4:27 PM

There are 29 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 1,739 times. The latest Post (August 4, 2025 at 2:18 PM) was by Splinter.

  • Rice
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    • January 14, 2025 at 4:27 PM
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    What’s with the verbicization of the noun “gift?”
    The verb “to give” (principle parts: Give - Gave- Given) is much less cumbersome a construction than making a verb out of the noun “gift” (principle parts, presumably Gift - Gifted - Gifted?).

    I just read this in a respected newspaper that I assume must employ proofreaders and editors:“My friend Susan gifted me this sewing kit.” It sounds English-as-second-language awkward.

    What’s wrong with the grammatically correct “My friend Susan gave me this sewing kit?”

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    • January 14, 2025 at 4:45 PM
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    Was it a USA based publication?

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    • January 14, 2025 at 5:26 PM
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    If it was given as a present then gifted seems okay to me.

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    • January 14, 2025 at 5:33 PM
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    I give you a bottle of whisky as a gift , ok

    I gift you a bottle of whisky - doesn't sound so good.

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    • January 14, 2025 at 5:37 PM
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    I give you a bottle of whisky as a gift , ok

    I gift you a bottle of whisky - doesn't sound so good.

    Thanks.....make sure you give me a good un. :thumbup:

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    • January 15, 2025 at 1:37 AM
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    Humor trumps grammar any day!

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    • January 15, 2025 at 7:42 AM
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    I don't think I've ever casually used gift as a verb and would never use it like that when writing more seriously. On the other hand, I do occasionally use American terms when writing for DCT.

    But my least favourite is, they passed away for, they died. In a recent BBC report, passed away and died were used in the same paragraph.

    Something like, so and so died of a heart attack and his friends were shocked at his passing. Where and what did he pass? A bus stop?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 15, 2025 at 7:50 AM
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    Passed away is nicer though than kicked the bucket or croaked....

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    • January 15, 2025 at 8:10 AM
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    Passed away is nicer though than kicked the bucket or croaked....

    ...or snuffed it.

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    • January 16, 2025 at 1:28 AM
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    Passed away is nicer though than kicked the bucket or croaked....

    Or "bit the dust" or "ten toes up" or where I live "nah he's dead"!!!

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    • January 16, 2025 at 9:48 AM
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    ...or pushing up the daisies.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 16, 2025 at 10:35 AM
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    ...or pushing up the daisies.

    I quite like " pushing up the daisies"

    Probably as almost all Scottish cemeteries are green rolling fields.

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    • January 16, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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    Six feet under.

  • daveholman
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    • January 16, 2025 at 1:39 PM
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    assuming room temperature

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    • January 16, 2025 at 2:05 PM
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    Bit the green weenie.

    Bought the ranch/estancia.

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    • January 16, 2025 at 2:47 PM
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    All hat and no cattle...

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 16, 2025 at 4:49 PM
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    Splinter , as you know, that’s a favorite of mine, though more in line with All Skirt And No Knickers than with the attempted gentility of death euphemisms.

    I wholeheartedly, enthusiastically agree with your original comment about “passed away.” (Same for “passed” and “passed on.”). The worst example I’ve ever heard was “We used to have a flowering tree over there, but during the hot, dry summer, it passed away.”

    I am not making that up.

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    • January 16, 2025 at 5:47 PM
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    I'm trying to visualise a tree passing on...

    On the other hand.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 16, 2025 at 8:12 PM
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    Six feet under.

    four feet under unless it is a double stack. My Kubota backhoe and operator have put several in the ground!!! I even dug the grave for my operator, about a year ago!!!

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    • January 16, 2025 at 9:47 PM
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    In Scotland if you are the first of the family to be buried in your family grave , it could be as much as eight....

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