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The many facets of Jorge Lanata

  • Splinter
  • October 21, 2024 at 5:25 PM

There are 8 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 769 times. The latest Post (October 22, 2024 at 5:45 PM) was by GlasgowJohn.

  • Splinter
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    • October 21, 2024 at 5:25 PM
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    Although seriously ill in hospital for months, one must remember that he was the founder of Pagina 12, today an ultra K rag and he himself was an anti-democracy writer way back in the early 80s to 90s. More recently he has been a thorn in the side of anything K related.

    Nothing is ever as it seems in Argentina and this from Bow Tied Mara makes very interesting reading.

    Pravda/12 & La Tablada
    How Nicaraguan Sandinistas funded one of Argentina's mainstream newspapers, and the mayhem that followed.
    www.bowtiedmara.io

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • October 21, 2024 at 5:39 PM
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    Lanata is probably one of the most interesting Argentine journalists.

    Never afraid to call a spade , a bloody shovel when he has to.

    But as with all of these 'opinion formers', his past may be a little shady, to say the least.

    I hope he recovers from his current illness but , I think it will be difficult to see him working again.

  • UK Man
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    • October 21, 2024 at 10:14 PM
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    Quote from GlasgowJohn

    But as with all of these 'opinion formers', his past may be a little shady, to say the least.

    You've hit the nail in the head there. Which is a shame as I thought he had more sense.

  • bebopalula
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    • October 22, 2024 at 9:33 AM
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    So who is BowTiedMara?

    Is it a consortium?

    Is it Christian Henrik Nesheim or another individual?

    And would knowing the answer make any difference to the esteem in which you hold their writing?

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    • October 22, 2024 at 10:54 AM
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    Quote from bebopalula

    So who is BowTiedMara?

    Is it a consortium?

    Is it Christian Henrik Nesheim or another individual?

    And would knowing the answer make any difference to the esteem in which you hold their writing?

    He lives in the Twittersphere (X) and I must admit, his research seems to be very thorough and he writes well. I think he's Dutch.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Rice
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    • October 22, 2024 at 11:35 AM
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    Quote from bebopalula

    So who is BowTiedMara?

    Is it a consortium?

    Is it Christian Henrik Nesheim or another individual?

    And would knowing the answer make any difference to the esteem in which you hold their writing?

    I’d like to know! And yes, I think knowing writers’ backgrounds and possible biases is helpful.

  • bebopalula
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    • October 22, 2024 at 4:30 PM
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    I’d like to know! And yes, I think knowing writers’ backgrounds and possible biases is helpful.

    I don't know! So my questions are genuine enquiries. I don't use Twitter/X (thanks Splinter ) nor Facebook, Instagram etc but all my more general internet searches for BowTied Mara bring me back to organisations providing goods, services or support for Sovereign Individuals.

    Sovereign Individuals are not to be confused with Sovereign Citizens such as Vem Miller, the crank who said he didn't want to shoot Trump but if the term sounds familiar it might be because it's the title of a 1997 book called The Sovereign Individual whose adherents have turned up in all sorts of extraordinary places. The writers of that book have links to the discredited "Clinton Body Count" conspiracy theory; the son of one of the writers was one of the primary fomenters of Brexit in the UK; Peter Theil has endorsed the Sovereign Individual and is one of the promoters of Project 2025. Etc.

    I'm not saying that anything written by BowTiedMara is untrue - I simply don't know - but in my opinion the writing is there to promote the Sovereign Individual agenda either for idealogical reasons, commercial reasons or both.

  • Rice
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    • October 22, 2024 at 5:23 PM
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    Oh God. Peter Freaking Thiel?

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • October 22, 2024 at 5:45 PM
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    Some of the posters may not be too knowledgeable about sovereign individuals and sovereign citizens , so here are a couple if links. Please feel free to add to this as I am learning myself .

    Sovereign citizen movement - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org

    The Sovereign Citizen Movement

    The Sovereign Individual - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org
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