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The Black Widow scam is still alive and kicking, and took a tech twist

  • serafina
  • August 28, 2024 at 1:49 PM

There are 7 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 513 times. The latest Post (August 29, 2024 at 10:37 PM) was by Rice.

  • serafina
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    • August 28, 2024 at 1:49 PM
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    The US Embassy in Argentina has issued a notice to travellers alerting that the Black Widow scam (viuda negra) has become more frequent than usual.

    What does it involve? Basically, a foreigner is approached at a public establishment by a young female, leading him to think they will have intercourse. However, she put drugs (benzodiazepinas, clonazepam) in his drinks and once at his apartment, she robs her victim, often with the help of accomplishes which she lets into the victim's apartment. It seems that the scammers have started using dating apps such as Tinder to find new victims, as well.

    Besides, the news is full of such reports that target also local men.

    After reading the name of the drugs used, I am wondering if our ailing neighbor was targeted by a viuda negra or if his apartment was confiscated pending investigation of a suspected black widow's case. After about two months, the police is no longer in our building and the apartment has been un-confiscated.

    Quote from US Embassy

    By U.S. Mission Argentina
    5 MINUTE READ

    August 22, 2024

    Location: Buenos Aires/Countrywide

    Event: U.S. Embassy Buenos Aires has seen an increase in reports of robberies involving drugs that temporarily incapacitate victims. Victims have been targeted in bars, night clubs, and through dating applications. Avoid leaving food or drinks unattended at a bar or restaurant, and refuse offers of something to eat or drink from a stranger. Be cautious before inviting individuals back to your hotel or residence.

    Actions to Take:

    • If you are imminent danger, contact local authorities by dialing “911.”
    • Do not leave drinks or food unattended or take drinks from strangers.
    • Strongly consider meeting only in public places and avoid meeting or returning to isolated locations, such as residences or hotel rooms, where crimes are more likely to occur.
    • Tell a friend or family member of your plans, including where you are going, details of the person you are meeting, and the app you used to meet them. Victims who are targeted via online dating applications tend to have their electronic devices stolen which often contain all evidence of communication with the assailants.
    • Avoid going to bars or nightclubs alone and leaving with strangers.
    • Trust your instincts – if something does not feel right, do not hesitate to walk away from a situation.
    • Seek medical attention if you believe you may have been drugged.

    Assistance:

    U.S. Embassy Buenos Aires, Argentina

    Phone number: +54 11 5777 4533

    Contact us through the ACS Navigator

    State Department – Consular Affairs

    888-407-4747 or 202-501-4444

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  • Rice
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    • August 28, 2024 at 4:27 PM
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    Wow. I had no idea this was going on. A terrifying thought, since so many people go to bars to meet other people. Sounds like a turnabout from the old situation of men drugging the drinks of women in bars or at parties.

  • Bombonera
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    • August 28, 2024 at 4:37 PM
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    I’ve seen a documentary about this in Colombia. It was made by an English guy. It’s worth a watch so I will try and find it and link to it.

    I’m not sure I’ve heard of it here.

    As I live like a monk I’ve nothing to worry about. 🤣


    Thankfully I found the documentary easily and I promise you it’s worth a watch.


    Full disclosure.

    Very many years ago I took a girl back to my room in Cartagena. I realise now how stupid that actually was. Everything went fine apart from her taking quite a bit of stuff from the minibar which I did not see her do!

    Edited 2 times, last by Bombonera: Merged a post created by Bombonera into this post. (August 28, 2024 at 4:45 PM).

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    • August 28, 2024 at 11:24 PM
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    You were really lucky….

  • serafina
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    • August 28, 2024 at 11:43 PM
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    I agree with Rice . And I am sad to hear that socializing has become so dangerous!

  • Bombonera
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    • August 28, 2024 at 11:57 PM
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    I think when you’re a foreigner somewhere you are always more vulnerable than a local. But of course what is reported above refers to a local as well.

  • serafina
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    • August 29, 2024 at 12:23 AM
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    Quote from Bombonera

    I think when you’re a foreigner somewhere you are always more vulnerable than a local. But of course what is reported above refers to a local as well.

    Of course!

    I was in Tunisia on a group visit to the old souk in Hammamet. A local man approached me. As I spoke no French (nor Arabic, obviously), I wasn't quite understanding what he was saying in his broken English. I thought he just wanted me to go to his café to try the shisha (also known as hookah), instead... he wanted to sell me hashish. Ewwww!!!

    Do you like shisha? sounded the same as Do you like hashish? or at least I would have never guessed that someone in an Islamic country would offer me to do drugs.

    I also didn't like someone could mistake me for a drug user. I was a bit offended that he thought I had the face of a drug addict... or perhaps of a fool! I could have found myself in a far worse situation, though... I am now laughing over it, but I should not.

  • Rice
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    • August 29, 2024 at 10:37 PM
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    I’m glad that incident turned into a story that, years later, could be shared with laughs!

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