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Netflix bamboozle

  • Rice
  • August 8, 2024 at 12:19 PM

There are 25 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 4,239 times. The latest Post (January 23, 2025 at 1:03 PM) was by UK Man.

  • Rice
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    • August 8, 2024 at 12:19 PM
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    Our US Netflix subscription currently costs either $12 or $13. Today we received a msg from them that was a wonder in PR bamboozle:

    [Huge font headline]

    YOU’LL SAVE 40% WITH YOUR NEW MONTHLY PLAN!!!
    What you need to know:
    Your Basic plan is being discontinued, and your new $6.99 Standard with ads plan automatically begins on your next billing date, September 19.
    Your new plan includes:
    •
    Lower price: Save 40% each month.

    A few short ads: Designed to not interrupt you during a scene — and no ads on Kids profiles

    There’s nothing you need to do to keep enjoying Netflix! If you’d like to change your plan to Standard ($15.49 per month) or Premium ($22.99 per month), you can update your plan anytime.


    What a positive spin given to completely negative news! Instead of the actual story, that they are substantially increasing the price of our current plan, they couch it in terms of the 40% discount they are bestowing on all current standard plan customers who, unasked, are being downgraded to a new plan with ads (“designed to not interrupt you during a scene”).

    Masterful!

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    • August 8, 2024 at 1:25 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    Our US Netflix subscription currently costs either $12 or $13. Today we received a msg from them that was a wonder in PR bamboozle:

    [Huge font headline]

    YOU’LL SAVE 40% WITH YOUR NEW MONTHLY PLAN!!!
    What you need to know:
    Your Basic plan is being discontinued, and your new $6.99 Standard with ads plan automatically begins on your next billing date, September 19.
    Your new plan includes:
    •
    Lower price: Save 40% each month.

    A few short ads: Designed to not interrupt you during a scene — and no ads on Kids profiles

    There’s nothing you need to do to keep enjoying Netflix! If you’d like to change your plan to Standard ($15.49 per month) or Premium ($22.99 per month), you can update your plan anytime.


    What a positive spin given to completely negative news! Instead of the actual story, that they are substantially increasing the price of our current plan, they couch it in terms of the 40% discount they are bestowing on all current standard plan customers who, unasked, are being downgraded to a new plan with ads (“designed to not interrupt you during a scene”).

    Masterful!

    Where's the bullshit meter when you need one?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • August 8, 2024 at 2:42 PM
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    Time to move to an Argentina plan?

    Precio (pesos argentinos)

    • Básico: ARS 4299 al mes
    • Estándar: ARS 7199 al mes (se puede agregar cupos de miembro extra* por ARS 2499 al mes cada uno)
    • Premium: ARS 9699 al mes (se puede agregar cupos de miembro extra* por ARS 2499 al mes cada uno)

    Consulta los planes y precios disponibles.

    En Argentina, se aplican los siguientes impuestos a los clientes de Netflix:

    • Impuesto al valor agregado (IVA) del 21 %
    • Impuesto a las transacciones (PAIS) del 8 %
    • Impuesto por Resolución 5450/2023 del 30 %
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    • August 8, 2024 at 6:33 PM
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    I’m wondering if I CAN get an Argentina subscription for the months we’re there?

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    • August 8, 2024 at 6:58 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    I’m wondering if I CAN get an Argentina subscription for the months we’re there?

    There are more than 9 ways to skin a cat and in Argentina, there exist grey areas, as you well know.

    We'll talk...

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • August 8, 2024 at 7:20 PM
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    Thanks!

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    • December 18, 2024 at 1:49 PM
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    Yes, they are confusing!

    Are Streaming Service Menu Systems The Worst?
    I subscribe to half a dozen video streaming services and, in my opinion, not one provides a decent menu system. I’m not sure if it’s just me but I find the…
    davescomputertips.com

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 18, 2024 at 6:38 PM
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    “Unintuitive and tedious.”

    ‘Nuff said.

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    • December 27, 2024 at 1:21 PM
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    I subscribed to Netflix in 2014 with a US account. At the time, Netflix was not yet available in Italy, but it was available in Argentina, and you could still use main VPN services to stream content from abroad (US, UK, etc.) with no issue.

    Right now, Netflix blocks the most famous VPNs, so even with a US Netflix account, I can only access ARG Netflix catalogue, so it doesn't make much sense to keep my US account. I am taking aficionado 's advice and I'll switch to Netflix Argentina in two days.

    My current plan is standard plus 1 extra household (for my mother in Italy) and I pay 26.64 USD/month. The Argentinian plan costs 10 USD according to InfoBAE. Netflix provides instructions on how to "move" to a different country without losing your watching history here.


    Fuente: Sebastián Domínguez
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    • December 29, 2024 at 1:30 PM
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    Right now, Netflix blocks the most famous VPNs, so even with a US Netflix account, I can only access ARG Netflix catalogue, so it doesn't make much sense to keep my US account. I am taking aficionado 's advice and I'll switch to Netflix Argentina in two days.

    I forget the advice I gave serafina? The advice about using the free Tailscale mesh vpn service, with you controlling the exit-node of internet traffic? Sounds like if you subscribe for an Argentina plan, you will host the exit-node at your home in Argentina, and then have your family in Italy turn on Tailscale when they need Netflix. This is similar to what I do, with a US Netflix and exit-node running at USA family home, then I only connect my iPad when want Netflix.
    More complicated if you only use a smart TV or smart box like Apple TV or Roku, but possible with some network management .

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    • December 29, 2024 at 1:57 PM
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    Quote from aficionado

    Time to move to an Argentina plan?

    aficionado , I was mentioning this line of yours.

    I did switch to the Argentinian plan today. It only accepts Argentinian cards as a method of payment. I did chat with a representative as I wanted to keep paying with my US card but it didn't work (the subscription is charged in USD, so I figured out I could simply keep paying with a US card - nowhere on the Help section mentioned that you have to use a local method of payment). He insisted that it was my card issuer blocking the payment, whereas I tried various US cards. As soon as I put in my Argentinian card, issue gone and my Netlfix argentina account was up and running. I was also able to transfer my members and keep my watch history and preferences.

    My mother is no longer interested in Netflix, so I didn't add an extra member at this moment. I remember that when I added her a few months ago, I had to get a friend in the US involved because the extra member account can be activated only in the same country where the main Netflix account was opened (the US).

    Lots of red tape for a bloody TV streaming service, if you ask me.


    I'd like to add that I subscribed to Netflix standard at 7199 ARS/month pre-tax and the actual charge was 10870.49 ARS (10.55 USD based on the official rate). Overall, removing the extra member and switching to Argentina, I saved 30%.

    Should the crazy taxes be reintroduced in the future for purchases abroad, I will have to get a friend in the US involved to reactivate a US Netflix account.


    Edited once, last by serafina: Merged a post created by serafina into this post. (December 29, 2024 at 2:04 PM).

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    • December 29, 2024 at 3:25 PM
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    My understanding is that most services which have the different rate in Argentina also only accept Argentina cards. Netflix and Spotify, etc… Also my understanding that even if you pay for the Argentina plan in ARS, you still are charged the taxes. I’m confused as to when the PAIS will be removed.

    Netflix Básico $ 6.663 /m (Impuestos 2364 + 4299)

    Calculá el precio final con impuestos para suscripciones y compras en el exterior o importaciones desde Amazon para Argentina
    Calculá el precio final con impuestos para suscripciones y compras en el exterior o importaciones desde Amazon para Argentina
    www.impuestito.org

    Taxes on your Netflix membership
    Answers to common questions about taxes on Netflix charges.
    help.netflix.com
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    • December 29, 2024 at 3:30 PM
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    I think the Impuesto Pais has now gone......

    But this is Argentina.

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    • January 21, 2025 at 8:07 PM
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    In a letter to investors [PDF], Netflix announced price changes starting today in the US, Canada, Argentina, and Portugal.

    New year, same streaming headaches: Netflix raises prices by up to 16 percent
    The cheapest ad-free plan increases from $15.49 to $17.99.
    arstechnica.com
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    • January 21, 2025 at 9:58 PM
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    W e have decided to subscribe on rotation, since it was adding quite a bit of money between Netflix and Disney+ and now Izzy (israeliana TV).
    So, this month will be just Netflix. Amazon prime is complimentary thanks to my mother.

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    • January 22, 2025 at 9:15 AM
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    Netflix’ new pricing of $18/month comes just as we received a message that streaming services will now all be taxed at 10% here, bringing Netflix to $20/month. We paid $9/month for years, until Netflix started inching their fee upwards before jumping several dollars if you didn’t want the ads they decided to inflict on subscribers.

    Greedy.

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    • January 22, 2025 at 9:46 AM
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    It's been creeping up here too. We pay $14,839, about US$12 for the premium version. But to be honest, we probably watch less Netflix than we did before because there's a lot of crap on it nowadays.

    Streaming is now getting very expensive due to the greed of the major players.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 22, 2025 at 9:59 AM
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    Our credit card we use for Netflix was reissued. So when they reminded us to put the new details in , we decided to have a three month break . Now we will decide in March if we tenew or not.

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    • January 22, 2025 at 10:19 AM
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    The missus watches the telly much more than I do. I haven't a clue what she pays for to be honest. She's into watching some French series at the moment. :rolleyes:

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    • January 22, 2025 at 12:20 PM
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    It's been creeping up here too.

    The news posted yesterday named Argentina as one of the 4 counties that will have the price increase starting now.

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