Alberto Fernandez and Fabiola

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    Several things come to my mind:

    1) once she was the first lady, surely she must have had some contacts to get herself out of there. And if her mother was also living there, she could have taken her away.

    2) since Alberto was exiliated hired in Spain. Why follow him?

    3) why the pantomime - I won't file a claim against him and then do exact that two days later?

    4) naïve-me thought that to become a high profile politician, you'd be fine screened and ruled out at the first glimpse of potential trouble in the eyes of the public / your enemies. It seems it is not the case. Either politicians are very good at hiding their skeletons, or the people who screen them do a very poor job.

    5) it can't be really that many democracies seem to fall for the worst of the worst among their people. And I am talking about first-world countries with millions of inhabitants, as well.

    Must admit I have my doubts about it all. I said to the missus the bruise on her face looks dodgy. She said she had been talking to her physiotherapist this evening and she had said it looked more like makeup than a bruise.

    Quote from UK Man

    Must admit I have my doubts about it all. I said to the missus the bruise on her face looks dodgy. She said she had been talking to her physiotherapist this evening and she had said it looked more like makeup than a bruise.

    I had the same impression, but I am no expert at ecchymosis. Perhaps Rice can chime in.

    In Fabiola's defence, it doesn't look like make up to me. It looks pretty real.

    I'm also wondering whey she went to Spain with Alberto. She could have staid and denounced him here.

    On the other hand, she may have been clever in letting him return to Argentina and expose him once he was back on home territory.

    Quote from serafina

    I had the same impression, but I am no expert at ecchymosis. Perhaps Rice can chime in.

    No expertise at all, or experience here, so I can’t help. I will admit that I’m generally inclined to believe someone claiming abuse. Because physical abuse is just one component of emotional abuse, many abused women are worn down to the point that they believe themselves to be worthless - - even deserving of abuse - - and dependent on their abusers. For this reason they are often unable to break free, and stay with the abusers.

    Quote from Rice

    No expertise at all, or experience here, so I can’t help. I will admit that I’m generally inclined to believe someone claiming abuse. Because physical abuse is just one component of emotional abuse, many abused women are worn down to the point that they believe themselves to be worthless - - even deserving of abuse - - and dependent on their abusers. For this reason they are often unable to break free, and stay with the abusers.

    Mental abuse and gaslighting without physical abuse, are what happened to someone very close to me and she tolerated it for many years.

    One day she found the courage to pack up and flee to her mother's house. That's not an easy thing to do when threats are flying around.

    I don't think you can fake that sort of black eye,. Make up can make it a lot worse and that may be the case but I really doubt it.

    I see the Ks are saying that she fell down the stairs and that she has a problem with alcohol.

    All in all a very despicable defence of an evil man.

    Quote from serafina

    4) naïve-me thought that to become a high profile politician, you'd be fine screened and ruled out at the first glimpse of potential trouble in the eyes of the public / your enemies. It seems it is not the case. Either politicians are very good at hiding their skeletons, or the people who screen them do a very poor job.

    5) it can't be really that many democracies seem to fall for the worst of the worst among their people. And I am talking about first-world countries with millions of inhabitants, as well.

    serafina , you have hit on something very important. There is a lot of shoving of skeletons into closets, by the candidates and those around them. But screening doesn’t seem to eliminate some of the worst.

    And investigative reporting takes a long time, so by the time disqualifying information is revealed, the candidate may already be elected. People have been lured by the siren call of internet “news,” which is often of dubious sources, as we have seen as election interference by other countries’ planting propaganda on the internet.

    As for democracies’ falling for the worst candidates? No one has sufficiently explained this dreadful, multi-faceted phenomenon that we are living through. This will undoubtedly be a great topic for a doctoral dissertation when it can be viewed through the lens of history. But for now, we need to recognize the phenomenon and strenuously fight it before democracy is a thing of the past.