The disappearance of five year old Loan

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    Multiple arrests have been made in the child's disappearance, including a policeman and some of Loan's relatives.

    It's now believed that he nay have been a victim of child trafficking to Paraguay, with Patricia Bullrich, the security minister, travelling to that country as we speak.

    This is shocking, with zero coverage in either The Herald or the BA Times.

    La búsqueda de Loan, en vivo: Paraguay descartó una denuncia en Ciudad del Este y la Policía dice que no tiene nuevas pistas
    Este lunes se cumplen 11 días de la desaparición del menor. El capitán de navío retirado Carlos Pérez, uno de los seis detenidos, habría intentado suicidarse…
    www.infobae.com

    Yes the missus has been cursing just about everyone involved these last few days especially the family and police. She's under the impression the authorities up there are a law unto themselves.

    I am under the impression that the corrupt government we had for the past 50+ years was just a reflection of the Argentinian society (the worst of it).

    Some provinces are world of their own, and while I understand this is a federalism state, the level of crime that happen without anyone even reporting/noticing/caring is very high. Sometimes, someone is successful in making some noise and the rest of the country hear the news. This is just my lingering feeling, that there are people who come to this world and leave this world unreported, people who disappear, are sold, tortured, violated and "it is okay" because it is something normal to them.

    Quote from Bombonera

    Under the legal systems most of us are familiar with, any lawyer will recommend you say nothing innocent or guilty. As soon as you open your gob the police will work on it against you. It’s in the caution. It’s explained to you.

    Neither here nor there but I have an LLM in law so that’s from where my legal thinking derives.

    It’s reckless, inappropriate and a wrong way to think that someone is guilty because they don’t speak.

    Must admit I'm not sure how I'd react if I was ever accused of doing something against the law by the police. I suspect I'd co-operate first before asking for a lawyer to be present.

    Quote from Bombonera

    The caution tells you they’re going to stitch you up.

    “Anything you do say maybe given in evidence…(against you)

    I know what you mean. I still remember clearly my only encounter with the police. It was when I was 11. I turned a corner while riding my bike on the pavement and met a copper walking along. I got such a fright I nearly fell off. ^^

    I've noticed my missus can get rather uppity with the police here. Which surprises me given butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. She obviously doesn't trust them.

    One of the problems here is that the senior guys in the police in the town where the kid disappeared seem to be involved in the disappearance

    let us just say they falsified the first three days of the investigation.

    Lock the bastards up without reading them their rights....

    Quote from UK Man

    Yes I just treat them like anyone else. Never had a problem with the police in the UK or here.

    The police in Argentina seems very helpful and approachable, unlike my experience in Italy and the US where you get looked like a nuisance or an idiot by default. They are effective, I am not saying the contrary, but I stay away as much as possible as I don't feel welcome.

    Whereas I am not afraid to "annoy" them in Argentina with a simple question as I know they won't bite me.

    We still have 24/7 police in our building, and they smile at us and say "hello" every time we walk past them in the hallway.

    I was once concerned about walking under a bridge with people camped under it. So I asked to a policeman nearby if it was safe to cross by foot. He said "yes", and he offered to escort me to the other side. I declined, and he said "I'll keep an eye on you while you cross" with a smile. Also, good looking, young policeman. What a service! :love:

    Quote from serafina

    I was once concerned about walking under a bridge with people camped under it. So I asked to a policeman nearby if it was safe to cross by foot. He said "yes", and he offered to escort me to the other side. I declined, and he said "I'll keep an eye on you while you cross" with a smile. Also, good looking, young policeman. What a service! :love:

    Hmmmmm...... :P

    The Argentine police have the luxury of not having to chase down criminals or enforce the law. Perhaps being friendly and answering questions are the main parts of their job.

    Quote from Rice

    The Argentine police have the luxury of not having to chase down criminals or enforce the law. Perhaps being friendly and answering questions are the main parts of their job.

    Indeed. From my observations here 3/4 of them just drive about in pick-ups totally ignoring drivers who commit driving offences. Get the odd one in Vea or La Anonima doing security for some odd reason. One even processed and gave me my online beer order the other week!! Can you imagine seeing a British copper doing that in Tesco? :D