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Spain and Argentina

  • GlasgowJohn
  • May 21, 2024 at 9:11 AM

There are 19 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 1,590 times. The latest Post (May 22, 2024 at 11:19 AM) was by GlasgowJohn.

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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    Well it looks like Spain are withdrawing their Ambassador from Buenos Aires.

    Milei hasn't exactly been friendly to the Spanish government especially to the wife of the main man who he has accused of corruption.

    Spain are demanding an apology.

    But as far as I can see , Spain started the shouting match. When the transport minister accused Milei of taking illegal drugs.

    It also seems Milei is not to happy with the Spanish government supporting Massa during the election campaign.

    I wonder how this will progress.

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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:36 AM
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    I can see Milei's position, but he really needs to tone it down.

    By the way, Adri is now worried about her and her family's Spanish passport applications which were started months ago at huge cost.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • UK Man
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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:42 AM
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    Usual tit for tat squabble. I suspect a large percentage of the Spanish populatiom agree with Milei. My missus still thinks he shouldn't have lowered himself to such a level and kept his mouth shut instead.

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    • May 21, 2024 at 1:02 PM
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    Quote from UK Man

    Usual tit for tat squabble. I suspect a large percentage of the Spanish populatiom agree with Milei. My missus still thinks he shouldn't have lowered himself to such a level and kept his mouth shut i

    Totally right but would Milei be able to keep his mouth shut ever?

  • serafina
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    • May 21, 2024 at 1:40 PM
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    Quote from UK Man

    Usual tit for tat squabble. I suspect a large percentage of the Spanish populatiom agree with Milei. My missus still thinks he shouldn't have lowered himself to such a level and kept his mouth shut instead.

    Being walked over only because you come from a poor country and/or because you want something in return, is not a great example to set. That's the kind of beggar-with-hats-in-hand mentality that doesn't fit well with Argentina, but perhaps Spain thinks that of us.

    I think Milei did good to stand up and speak his mind and I wouldn't expect any less from his character. He didn't say any lie, as far as I can see.

    Being on the stand for drug trafficking is not a light accusation, and I believe that to come up and accuse the President's wife of such thing, they must have thought about it carefully and have a valid reason. If I were Spain, I'd be embarrassed about having a President whose wife can be accused of drug trafficking, and then take a 5-day pause to reflect and decide to stay in office. It is exactly the same attitude that Cristina had every time she was accused of something, minus the "I'll think about it" part.

    Also, I don't think that nowadays Argentina owes anything to Spain. If ever, the opposite given the amount of Argentinians that are moving to Spain.

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    • May 21, 2024 at 2:01 PM
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    I think Milei did good to stand up and speak his mind and I wouldn't expect any less from his character. He didn't say any lie, as far as I can see.

    Yes it would be against his nature not to. Not sure the rest of the world would see it as that though. Hopefully it'll all blow over quickly.

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    • May 21, 2024 at 3:00 PM
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    The Spanish government spokesman wouldn't even answer the question.

    https://twitter.com/GordoDan_/status/1792903053114233100/

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 21, 2024 at 4:16 PM
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    The Spanish government spokesman wouldn't even answer the question.

    https://twitter.com/GordoDan_/status/1792903053114233100/

    Because he couldnt answer truthfully?

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    • May 21, 2024 at 6:40 PM
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    Because he couldnt answer truthfully?

    Because he's a merchant banker?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Bombonera
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    • May 21, 2024 at 6:47 PM
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    To my simple my mind it’s quite shocking. But perhaps the Spanish/ Argentine relationship hasn’t enjoyed the “special relationship” kind of status enjoyed between USA/UK.

    How is this viewed by Argentines and Spaniards?

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    • May 21, 2024 at 7:01 PM
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    Most think that he wants to keep Argentine as leaders in the World Insult Championships.

    The Spaniards havent done too badly to be honest but i think Milei will win.

    In Spain the left will defend the President and the right love what Milei is doing.

    Has the presidents wife been up to no good ? No smoke without fire say some ...

  • Bombonera
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    • May 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM
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    Milei just likes to call out what he sees before him in a way politicians do not. If he thinks someone is corrupt he will say so.

    That’s my take from the outside with insufficient feeling and knowledge really.

    What is the Spanish ambassador like here? Are they high profile/ popular?

    I would think from a Spanish perspective it’s a one of the highest profile ambassador appointments?

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    • May 21, 2024 at 8:09 PM
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    To be honest , we didn't know who it was. Saw her picture in the paper today . I would pass her by in the street.

    whereas the last two UK ambassadors have been active in social media, I cant say that she has.

  • Bombonera
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    • May 21, 2024 at 8:18 PM
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    Kirsty Hayes is shite but that’s outside of the discussion.

  • UK Man
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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:18 PM
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    Kirsty Hayes is shite but that’s outside of the discussion.

    Really?

    I was once invited to a British Airways soiree at the British Embassy by the female British Ambassador.

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  • Bombonera
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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:29 PM
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    Get you! UK Man

    Our Chivilcoy boy moves in infuential circles

  • UK Man
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    • May 21, 2024 at 9:39 PM
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    Quote from Bombonera

    Get you! UK Man

    Our Chivilcoy boy moves in infuential circles

    The name's Bond.....Brooke Bond. ^^

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    • May 21, 2024 at 11:46 PM
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    There is a big difference between politics and diplomacy.

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    • May 22, 2024 at 9:21 AM
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    Tarico nails it, bearing in mind how the Spaniards love to take the piss out of the Argentine Sudacas and it works both ways.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • May 22, 2024 at 11:19 AM
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    The best Tarico Fake news for a long while.

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