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O.J.Simpson

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  • April 11, 2024 at 1:24 PM

There are 15 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 1,881 times. The latest Post (April 19, 2024 at 9:13 PM) was by GlasgowJohn.

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    • April 11, 2024 at 1:24 PM
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    Bad to the bone.

    OJ Simpson, NFL star acquitted in ‘trial of the century’, dies aged 76
    The ex-American football star was controversially acquitted of the murder of his wife and a friend in 1995.
    www.bbc.com

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • April 11, 2024 at 5:19 PM
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    Consummate con man. And murderer.

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    • April 11, 2024 at 5:49 PM
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    Will the almighty judge hold him accountable?

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    • April 11, 2024 at 6:34 PM
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    This is the main reason why I don't say "RIP" to well known people, on social media, because you don't know if they have any bad secrets.

    I didn't follow the trial that closely at the time, but to have a high speed chase from the police like he did, is a huge red flag of guilt

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    • April 14, 2024 at 12:45 PM
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    Quote from SpaceNut

    This is the main reason why I don't say "RIP" to well known people, on social media, because you don't know if they have any bad secrets.

    I didn't follow the trial that closely at the time, but to have a high speed chase from the police like he did, is a huge red flag of guilt

    We briefly examined his case in a litigation class. He was acquitted in the criminal case because his lawyer was able that he wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but he was condemned in the civil proceedings, where the criteria is of the preponderance of evidence.

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    • April 14, 2024 at 1:23 PM
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    OJ was a great football player, and a terrible human being

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    • April 14, 2024 at 1:46 PM
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    We briefly examined his case in a litigation class. He was acquitted in the criminal case because his lawyer was able that he wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but he was condemned in the civil proceedings, where the criteria is of the preponderance of evidence.

    That's just nuances, I guess the jury and the lawyer are to blame for the original case, which might have seen him go to the chair, I dunno??

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    • April 14, 2024 at 9:51 PM
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    We briefly examined his case in a litigation class. He was acquitted in the criminal case because his lawyer was able that he wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but he was condemned in the civil proceedings, where the criteria is of the preponderance of evidence.

    Exactly right, serafina . Far easier for a jury to find someone liable in a civil case than guilty in a criminal case, where one single juror can prevent a guilty verdict.

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    • April 14, 2024 at 10:13 PM
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    That's just nuances, I guess the jury and the lawyer are to blame for the original case, which might have seen him go to the chair, I dunno??

    That's not nuances, it is simply a demonstration of how the same event can lead to different outcome if handled in a criminal proceeding vs. a civil proceeding.

    Also, in the case of OJ Simpson, first was the criminal proceeding, where he was acquitted by a predominantly Afro-American jury in response to the Rodney King's killing due to police brutality, and later was found guilty in the civil proceeding.

    After the civil proceeding guilty verdict and further arrest of OJ later in the years, some jurors of the criminal trial reconsidered their vote:

    Quote from Reversal of opinion by some jurors and defense attorneys

    Several jurors have reversed their previous opinions of Simpson's innocence. In 2016, Carrie Bess admitted that while she still believes that acquitting Simpson as payback for Rodney King was the correct decision in the atmosphere of the 1990s, she regrets the not guilty verdict following Simpson's arrest in Las Vegas, and labelled Simpson as "stupid" for getting himself into more trouble.[63] Juror number nine, Lionel Cryer, a former member of the Black Panther Party[74] who notably gave Simpson a black power raised fist[75] after the verdict, said that in retrospect, he would render a guilty verdict.[76] Juror Anise Aschenbach, who initially voted guilty before changing her vote, stated she regrets the decision and believes Simpson is guilty because he is not looking for the "real killer" like he promised he would.[77] As of 2023, Carrie Bess remains the only author of Madame Foreman who has not apologized to either the Browns or Goldmans for the verdict, the book or her comments about Nicole, and who continues to assert that acquitting Simpson as payback for Rodney King was not an incorrect decision.

    In Outrage, Bugliosi pointed out that after the verdict was read, while Johnnie Cochran was the only one who appeared happy to the point that he hugged Simpson from behind, Shapiro and Kardashian both looked rather shocked, while Bailey looked indifferent, the latter three which Bugliosi cited was uncommon for defense attorneys who had successfully acquitted a client they truly believed to be innocent.

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    • April 15, 2024 at 7:55 AM
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    This is the problem, the jury shouldn't have behaved like they did and be swayed by other political motives. Their job was to either acquit OJ or find him guilty, there job was not to look at other events that occurred previously. Cassie Bell should have been arrested for being in contempt of court procedures, but I don't know if that's a thing in America. If not, they have very lax rules over there

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    • April 15, 2024 at 6:50 PM
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    Contempt of court is taken very seriously. With all defendants in all cases with one YUUUUGE exception, who has already gotten away with far more than you or I ever would.

    I’m curious about what you mean about the “very lax rules.” Specifically, which rules are lax?

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    • April 15, 2024 at 7:28 PM
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    Contempt of court is taken very seriously. With all defendants in all cases with one YUUUUGE exception, who has already gotten away with far more than you or I ever would.

    I’m curious about what you mean about the “very lax rules.” Specifically, which rules are lax?

    I don't know why she wasn't prosecuted, she was clearly influenced by something that shouldn't have been in her mind. It would have had a different outcome on the case, on the BBC today, the person talking about the Trump case, said they will have to fine comb the suitable jury members, because they can't allow for political influence to get in the way of justice. Its that serious

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    • April 15, 2024 at 11:23 PM
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    Who is Cassie Bell?

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    • April 16, 2024 at 5:54 PM
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    I meant Carrie Bess, my bad

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    • April 19, 2024 at 7:06 PM
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    I’m still in the dark -

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    • April 19, 2024 at 9:13 PM
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    I’m still in the dark -

    A juror , I surmise.....

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