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Baltimore bridge collapse

  • Splinter
  • March 26, 2024 at 11:40 AM

There are 20 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 1,960 times. The latest Post (April 2, 2024 at 12:52 AM) was by daniel.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 11:40 AM
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    Investigations are under way to determine how this disaster happened. Was it a systems failure on the ship or negligence by the captain and crew, bearing in mind that this is not the first incident involving this particular vessel.

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    Then at 01:25 MarineTraffic data shows that the ship suddenly diverted from its straight course and began to slow down.

    Around this time, video shows that all lights on the exterior of the ship suddenly turned off and smoke began emanating from the ship's funnel.

    Shortly afterwards it hit the bridge.

    Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse: What we know about ship and bridge
    How events unfolded when a cargo ship crashed into and destroyed the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
    www.bbc.com

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    • March 26, 2024 at 11:50 AM
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    Reports say a failure on the ship. Harbour pilots were on board so they'll confirm.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 2:54 PM
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    And here’s the footage of the incident

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    • March 26, 2024 at 4:01 PM
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    A spectacularly catastrophic event. It seems we are looking at few casualties generally but a life is a life and it's awful in that regard primarily.

    I wonder what the detour looks like for people who normally cross it.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 4:15 PM
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    I read they rescued at least one of the road workers who was on the bridge at that time.

    Here is a decent breakdown of the economic impacts to shipping supply chain and local commutes. A live blog style report updating often

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2024-03-26/baltimore-bridge-collapse

  • Bombonera
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    • March 26, 2024 at 4:52 PM
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    That's a lot of cargo on the ship though I have no idea what any of it is.

    It looks like there is no prospect of the ship sinking but there's clearly a lot of work to do to free it of a portion of the bridge on top of it.

    What a catastrophic mess unleashed within seconds.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 7:13 PM
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    Can a shipping line, even one as large as Maersk, possibly carry a large enough insurance policy to cover replacing an enormous bridge like that one?

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    • March 26, 2024 at 7:18 PM
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    Do you recall the story about the Twin Towers insurance Rice?

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    • March 26, 2024 at 7:21 PM
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    Can a shipping line, even one as large as Maersk, possibly carry a large enough insurance policy to cover replacing an enormous bridge like that one?

    I believe it was a Indian ship contracted by Maersk. How that works regarding insurance I don't know.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 8:02 PM
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    I believe it was a Indian ship contracted by Maersk. How that works regarding insurance I don't know.

    Nope, I heard its from Sri Lanka

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    • March 26, 2024 at 8:49 PM
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    Singapore registered, Indian Crew and heading to Sri Lanka .

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    • March 26, 2024 at 9:39 PM
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    Singapore registered, Indian Crew and heading to Sri Lanka .

    Right, gotcha

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    • March 26, 2024 at 10:31 PM
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    Can a shipping line, even one as large as Maersk, possibly carry a large enough insurance policy to cover replacing an enormous bridge like that one?

    The above Bloomberg RT feed mentioned that Maryland has property insurance, including for bridges, of $350 million. That does not sound like much.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 10:33 PM
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    @Bombonera , I’m sorry to say that I don’t remember how the Twin Towers insurance case came out. I do remember that it seemed to go on forever. Refresh my memory, please?

    I read this earlier today in the NYT:

    “The ship that struck a Baltimore bridge warned of possible collision in a mayday call, prompting workers to try to stop traffic moments before the bridge collapsed.”

    Let’s hope that some lives were saved.

    Tonight, the Coast Guard announced that the search for the 6 missing construction workers had ended. Tragically, no hope left for their families.

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    • March 27, 2024 at 1:09 PM
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    Today’s NYT reports that “President Biden said on Tuesday that the federal government would “pay the entire cost of reconstructing” the collapsed Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, adding that he hoped it would be rebuilt and reopened “as soon as humanly possible.”

    Thank God he got a major infrastructure bill passed, something that the previous president talked a lot about but never could achieve. America’s infrastructure needs so much work. Unfortunately, this bridge was apparently in great structural condition. Too bad the Dali couldn’t have collapsed a bride already scheduled for major work!

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    • March 28, 2024 at 11:40 AM
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    This writer makes a very important point: we all immediately thought of drivers who will be inconvenienced by having to find a different route, but the bigger picture is that this very busy port is now completely shut down for the coming months or years.

    Much of the Baltimore economy depends upon the port. And losing the port will contribute to supply chain woes.

    (No paywall; gift article)

    https://wapo.st/4ank9HY

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    • March 28, 2024 at 12:49 PM
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    Listened to an 'expert' who said there should have been crash barriers in place to prevent this type of accident from happening.

  • Bombonera
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    • March 28, 2024 at 2:27 PM
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    He sounds like an after-the-event kind of expert.

    Has been contacting the city of Baltimore for the last 50 years telling them what they need to do?

    I bet he has not.

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    • March 28, 2024 at 5:49 PM
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    Quote from Bombonera

    He sounds like an after-the-event kind of expert.

    Has been contacting the city of Baltimore for the last 50 years telling them what they need to do?

    I bet he has not.

    I've no idea who he was but he makes a good point.

    ''The crashes have also raised questions about whether more ships should be required to be ready to drop anchors quickly during port emergencies, and whether tugboats should accompany more vessels as they enter and leave harbors.

    There has not been a final report on the Guangzhou incident, and investigators have barely begun to look at what happened in Baltimore. But ship collision barriers are standard around the support piers of bridges over major waterways like the entrance to Baltimore’s harbor. The Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge in New York City, for example, has massive barriers of concrete and rocks around the bases of the piers that support it.''''

    Recent Bridge Collapses Raise Questions About Modern Shipping
    The crash in Baltimore was at least the second in just over a month in which a container ship hit a major road bridge.
    www.nytimes.com
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    • April 1, 2024 at 10:00 AM
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    There's been another incident, this time a barge hitting a bridge

    Oklahoma bridge struck by barge reopens to highway traffic
    An Oklahoma bridge over the Arkansas River reopened after state troopers closed it down when it was hit by a barge. Engineers inspected the bridge and found it…
    www.foxnews.com

    One in Arkansas, is this an insurance scam or what?

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