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President Milei's first steps

  • Splinter
  • December 11, 2023 at 9:24 AM

There are 148 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 13,896 times. The latest Post (November 4, 2024 at 4:55 PM) was by UK Man.

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    • December 17, 2023 at 11:53 AM
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    The Guardian doesn't quite tell the whole story, being a leftist publication.

    What the paper fails to mention is that scroungers and corrupt social groups believe they have the right to own the streets, forcing those on social plans to protest at the cost of losing their meagre $$ if they don't attend. Those same corrupt people also take a cut from those so called plans and have turned it into an entire industry.

    How Argentine protests are reported by media abroad is usually way off the mark. Never did they mention that those same protests when the previous government was in power, were against the very politicians that provided the funds in the first place. Funds which were seen by most sane minded working people as simply a means to keep them in power and the poor on their side.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 17, 2023 at 12:07 PM
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    Quote from Splinter

    The Guardian doesn't quite tell the whole story, being a leftist publication.

    What the paper fails to mention is that scroungers and corrupt social groups believe they have the right to own the streets, forcing those on social plans to protest at the cost of losing their meagre $$ if they don't attend. Those same corrupt people also take a cut from those so called plans and have turned it into an entire industry.

    How Argentine protests are reported by media abroad is usually way off the mark. Never did they mention that those same protests when the previous government was in power, were against the very politicians that provided the funds in the first place. Funds which were seen by most sane minded working people as simply a means to keep them in power and the poor on their side.

    Italian newspapers are the same. My mother is very worried as basically she is reading that we have a dictatorship on the rise. It is too long to explain to an outsiders, and she things I am sugarcoating it to not worry her too much. However, it really bothers me that the view from abroad is so skewed, left to right.

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    • December 17, 2023 at 8:34 PM
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    I’m afraid that Milei has also alarmed people in the US, with his downplaying of the military dictatorship, climate change denial, and admiration of our own dictator wannabe. I find myself having to defend the “chainsaw man” for the things he said while campaigning, rather than being able to celebrate him for the very serious changes he is trying to effect.

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    • December 17, 2023 at 9:21 PM
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    He showed his quality as a caring president by going to see the people in Bahia Blanca as soon as it was safe to fly.

    i dont recall any of the previous Presidents visiting " disaster zones"

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    • December 18, 2023 at 8:48 AM
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    He showed his quality as a caring president by going to see the people in Bahia Blanca as soon as it was safe to fly.

    i dont recall any of the previous Presidents visiting " disaster zones"

    He even managed to get Kicillof of his arse.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 21, 2023 at 8:24 AM
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    Sweeping reforms in the president's announcement last night were greeted with what can only be described as shock and awe.

    He outlined 30 of 300 reforms, all designed to deregulate the state's grip over the country. Many of these reforms will have to pass through parliament and this is only the first round, apparently, with more to come.

    Detractors are calling him a dictator and others are calling his reforms copies of what Menem did in the 90s.

    To be fair, he is delivering what he promised.

    Milei's top 30: Economic reforms outlined by president in speech
    President Javier Milei outlines 30 key reforms he proposes to deliver in a sweeping reform blitz aimed at deregulating Argentina's economy and modifying labour…
    www.batimes.com.ar

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 21, 2023 at 9:13 AM
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    He is a dream come true.

    I have briefly read the 30 points on La Nación and most of them don't affect me personally, except one which is the one that allows to sign up rental contracts in USD. Honestly, it is simply legitimizing something that was already done out of necessity.

    The previous law only allowed to sign rental contracts in pesos, since that's the only currency of Argentina. However, one could sign a contract in USD, but it wasn't considered a rental contract, just a generic contract between parties. Under the previous law, USD or beans was the same thing... literally just things and not money.

    However, we all see that the rentals are offered and asked for in USD due to the pesos volatility. It is understandable and an effect of the economy, not a cause.

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    • December 21, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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    Did Milei really use this kind of language (obviously not in English)

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    • December 21, 2023 at 10:32 AM
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    Quote from SpaceNut

    Did Milei really use this kind of language (obviously not in English)

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    Indeed he did and he meant it.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 21, 2023 at 2:23 PM
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    Left of centre or not....

    Javier Milei’s radical economic policies for Argentina met with protests
    New libertarian president accused of drawing up a ‘battle plan against working people’
    www.theguardian.com

    What about all the people who do not work for the government having their wages cut by 50%...Could you live on 280 USD a month?? I have hard working friends that are desperate..

    Cordialement

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    • December 21, 2023 at 3:27 PM
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    Quote from Sarran1955

    Left of centre or not....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec…licies-protests

    What about all the people who do not work for the government having their wages cut by 50%...Could you live on 280 USD a month?? I have hard working friends that are desperate..

    Cordialement

    Who is having wages cut by 50%? The peso may have been devalued by over 50% but you have to remember that the economy needs shock treatment, otherwise we'll be in an even worse situation.

    'Battle plan against working people.' ? That's exactly the kind of rubbish you would expect from Bergman, De Cano and Grabois, who talk out of their arses most of the time.

    I read The Guardian because it runs some very good articles, but of course it leans heavily to the left.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 22, 2023 at 2:04 PM
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    No wages are being cut....

    Has the value changed? in relative terms yes . But now we have an official dollar almost at the true value. Not a false value that no one could obtain or even purchase the mythical 200 USD per month.

    The protesters were out protesting before the measures were announced

    The very same protesters who have kept their mouths shut for 20 years of lies and untruths

    I really cannot figure out why they were not out in the streets when inflation hit 100%


    The security measures to contain the protest marches cost 60 million pesos . The government intends to invoice these coest to the protest organizers.

    I would love them to do this.

    Edited once, last by GlasgowJohn: Merged a post created by GlasgowJohn into this post. (December 22, 2023 at 2:10 PM).

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    • December 22, 2023 at 2:49 PM
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    The fact is that these people would protest against any radical change, even if Milei changed the colour of his socks.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 23, 2023 at 10:07 AM
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    This completely cracked me up!

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • December 23, 2023 at 3:30 PM
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    Laughing through tears -

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    • December 23, 2023 at 3:35 PM
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    And here's his Christmas announcement.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Bombonera
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    • December 23, 2023 at 4:02 PM
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    I'm pretty much on the outside of things as to how things are playing out with a new President and new government given I'm not there with you all just now.

    But...

    I've got a peculiar sense of optimism about things which is a wild perspective to take when it comes to Argentina. But it's not someone like me Milei has to convince so I know it isn't going to be a smooth ride. I think good and regular communication with the public will be essential going forward.

    Fingers crossed!

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    • December 24, 2023 at 9:48 AM
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    Quote from Bombonera


    I've got a peculiar sense of optimism about things which is a wild perspective to take when it comes to Argentina.

    that’s the trick it plays on everybody. We all think it can get better. The question is: will it?

    Join the ride! Here or there, it is the same. We can’t change anything but ride along!

    When are you planning to come back?

  • Bombonera
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    • December 24, 2023 at 1:09 PM
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    I hope to land 1 March serafina though I have yet to book the flight.

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    • December 26, 2023 at 4:36 PM
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    The government has discovered that 8,500 people getting one of the unemployment benefit plans are actually working in local and national government . The info comes from 10 provinces that supplied information to the government.

    So there are probbaly more bastards out ther

    These 8,500 plans have been suspended as of today.

    I trust the 8,500 corrupt bastards will also be sacked from their jobs for being corrupt bastards.

    Sorry for the use of unpleasant words in this post.

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