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Buying property in Buenos Aires

  • Serenidad
  • September 26, 2023 at 7:46 PM

There are 34 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 7,115 times. The latest Post (December 2, 2023 at 5:20 AM) was by Bombonera.

  • Serenidad
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    • September 26, 2023 at 7:46 PM
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    Hi I am new here on this forum and intend to look at buying an apartment in Recoleta. I have visited the city several times for months at a time spanning years. I wondered if anyone has experience with a company called buysellba please? Any other advice re buying an apartment here (to airbnb it part of the year and live in the rest of the year) would be appreciated too! I know the basics, like paying in cash. Thanks!

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    • September 26, 2023 at 8:04 PM
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    Quote from Serenidad

    Hi I am new here on this forum and intend to look at buying an apartment in Recoleta. I have visited the city several times for months at a time spanning years. I wondered if anyone has experience with a company called buysellba please? Any other advice re buying an apartment here (to airbnb it part of the year and live in the rest of the year) would be appreciated too! I know the basics, like paying in cash. Thanks!

    Welcome Serenidad

    Let's see what we can do.

    serafina is quite knowledgeable about these things.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • September 26, 2023 at 11:45 PM
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    Welcome to the forum, Serenidad . Like you, I’m a long-time returner to BsAs for the max allowed time each year. Because renting has served me just fine, I don’t have any experience with buysellba or any other real estate agency. But I’m sure you’ll get help from other forum members. I look forward to reading about your decision, and hope your property hunt will be lots of fun!

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    • September 27, 2023 at 9:10 AM
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    Thanks for the warm welcome guys! serafina, if you are free I would love to have a coffee and hear about your experience! 😊

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    • September 27, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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    Looking at the advice given by BuySellBA on its website, I would say they seem fairly serious. But I have never heard of them before today. That is neither good nor bad. My partner is from Argentina and we tend to be guided by family and friends on all these matters.

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    • September 27, 2023 at 11:15 AM
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    Well they want to charge a us 5k retainer and charge 2%, legal fees which I don't pay anywhere near in the uk. But they cite the dangers of moving money and paying cash... I am not sure if they're scaremongering to get paid for a service that's unnecessary.

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    • September 27, 2023 at 11:36 AM
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    Looking at their website they can certainly talk the talk. I get the feeling they won't come cheap but if they're able to produce the goods then it'll be worth paying the extra for.

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    • September 27, 2023 at 11:58 AM
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    Well they want to charge a us 5k retainer and charge 2%, legal fees which I don't pay anywhere near in the uk. But they cite the dangers of moving money and paying cash... I am not sure if they're scaremongering to get paid for a service that's unnecessary.

    is that USD 5,000?

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    • September 27, 2023 at 3:35 PM
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    Well they want to charge a us 5k retainer and charge 2%, legal fees which I don't pay anywhere near in the uk. But they cite the dangers of moving money and paying cash... I am not sure if they're scaremongering to get paid for a service that's unnecessary.

    I wouldn't do anything, certainly not sign papers or definitely not hand over any cash. Sounds like a scam to me, I'm afraid.

    Family and friends' recommendations are the best.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • September 27, 2023 at 6:44 PM
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    Quote from Splinter

    I wouldn't do anything, certainly not sign papers or definitely not hand over any cash. Sounds like a scam to me, I'm afraid.

    Family and friends' recommendations are the best.

    I agree. :thumbup:

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    • September 28, 2023 at 1:16 AM
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    By good fortune, coincidence or witchcraft, last night/today (depending on where you are reading this from) a very new poster in Another Place has revealed the owner of buysellba to be a different, longer-term poster in that same Other Place. Whether that connection is a good thing or a bad thing I really don't know but here is a shortened link to the message:

    Need Real Estate Agent Recommendation
    Hi, Can anyone recommend a good real estate agent who can help us start our search for a condo/apartent in BA from the U.S.? We've had difficulty receiving a…
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    • September 28, 2023 at 9:44 AM
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    Quote from bebopalula

    By good fortune, coincidence or witchcraft, last night/today (depending on where you are reading this from) a very new poster in Another Place has revealed the owner of buysellba to be a different, longer-term poster in that same Other Place. Whether that connection is a good thing or a bad thing I really don't know but here is a shortened link to the message:

    https://tinyurl.com/579eevvr

    So is early...the owner of said buysellba?


    Apparently it's this chap and his testimonials are very good. I would however, still be wary.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelkohsd/

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

    Edited once, last by Splinter: Merged a post created by Splinter into this post. (September 28, 2023 at 9:48 AM).

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    • September 28, 2023 at 5:45 PM
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    Quote from Splinter

    So is early...the owner of said buysellba?


    Apparently it's this chap and his testimonials are very good. I would however, still be wary.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelkohsd/

    Especially wary of people who say things like this:

    “Fortunately I was smarter.”

  • Bombonera
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    • September 28, 2023 at 5:55 PM
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    Whilst I like the idea of owning my own piece of Argentina, even with savvy, trustworthy friends and contacts, including you good people, I find the prospect too scary.

    Actually, it made me wonder further about all the valuable real estate north of the city, some of it going to rack and ruin. Maybe even these people see selling up too bloody difficult and risky.

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    • September 29, 2023 at 12:32 PM
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    Quote from Splinter

    So is early...the owner of said buysellba?


    Apparently it's this chap and his testimonials are very good. I would however, still be wary.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelkohsd/

    In the past few days he seems to have stepped up a few gears and appears to be mounting a metaphorical take-over bid for control of the Other Place. He appears to have upset quite a few of the regulars - and I don't just mean those in the property business - but whether those are grounds to doubt his honesty and trustworthiness in his business dealings I couldn't say.

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    • September 29, 2023 at 12:41 PM
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    Quote from bebopalula

    In the past few days he seems to have stepped up a few gears and appears to be mounting a metaphorical take-over bid for control of the Other Place. He appears to have upset quite a few of the regulars - and I don't just mean those in the property business - but whether those are grounds to doubt his honesty and trustworthiness in his business dealings I couldn't say.

    I would take my hat off to anyone who upsets regulars at the other place. Maybe it's because I'm a trouble maker?

    :ban:

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • September 29, 2023 at 4:59 PM
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    Understatement of the year, Splinter .

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    • November 30, 2023 at 1:22 PM
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    In the past few days he seems to have stepped up a few gears and appears to be mounting a metaphorical take-over bid for control of the Other Place.

    Recently he has built another forum according to his Twitter posts. Seems like it is AI bots and perhaps paid humans scraping all the threads and posts from the Other Place. Reproducing all the topics in his forum, with fake users posting the real content from the other place. It is interesting since every day it seems more AI like. At first pure cut and paste, and now little grammar changes, and more strange conversations with "people" giving high praise and thanks to the owner for creating the amazing site. Also the BuySellBA owner jumps in to provide "helpful" responses to stolen questions. At some point I imagine it will be only AI bot talking to other AI bots only to receive visits from tourists.

    Could be to promote his BuySellBA business. Or really far fetched, that the Other site owner is on on the whole thing too wanting to cash out.

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    • November 30, 2023 at 10:16 PM
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    Alice. Down the rabbit hole.

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    • December 1, 2023 at 11:00 AM
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    Quote from wile.e

    Recently he has built another forum according to his Twitter posts. Seems like it is AI bots and perhaps paid humans scraping all the threads and posts from the Other Place. Reproducing all the topics in his forum, with fake users posting the real content from the other place. It is interesting since every day it seems more AI like. At first pure cut and paste, and now little grammar changes, and more strange conversations with "people" giving high praise and thanks to the owner for creating the amazing site. Also the BuySellBA owner jumps in to provide "helpful" responses to stolen questions. At some point I imagine it will be only AI bot talking to other AI bots only to receive visits from tourists.

    Could be to promote his BuySellBA business. Or really far fetched, that the Other site owner is on on the whole thing too wanting to cash out.

    Here's the X post where they openly ask people to post on BAexpats (that other place), take a screenshot and be in with a chance of winning $200, knowing that any reference to their new forum will be deleted.

    https://twitter.com/BuySellBA/status/1730421634300039610/

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Splinter December 1, 2023 at 11:12 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Serenidad” to “Buying property in Buenos Aires”.
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