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The YPF fiasco

  • Splinter
  • July 31, 2023 at 10:56 AM

There are 11 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 1,548 times. The latest Post (August 7, 2025 at 6:39 AM) was by Rice.

  • Splinter
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    • July 31, 2023 at 10:56 AM
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    In 1992, YPF was privatised and guess who voted for that? Yes, Cristina Kirchner and many of her acolytes, in support of President Menem's policies.

    Then in 2012, CFK, as president, nationalised the company and the purchase was led by none other than Axel Kicillof who said at the time:

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    "The morons are those who think that the state has to be stupid and buy everything according to the YPF statute",

    In other words, the state, in buying 51% control, paid less than the actual stock price. They stole it, in fact.

    On that day, a Spanish friend of mine, sailing a yacht from the Canary Islands arrived in Puerto Madero and he told me that the Coast Guard ordered him to lower/remove the Spanish flag from the stern, a move which is illegal. This was because the Spanish company Repsol owned the remaining shares of YPF and physically removed from their offices in Buenos Aires on that day. Persona non grata if you will.

    Now more than ten years later the case has been heard by a judge in New York with the Argentine government facing a compensation claim of around US$10billion.

    YPF is currently valued at around US$11billion.

    Sometimes these things just come back to bite you in the ass, don't they?

    https://euro.eseuro.com/local/amp/712838

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • July 31, 2023 at 11:20 AM
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    I remember when YPF was stolen, er, “nationalized” by Xtina. At the time I thought she had reached bottom. But there is always another subfloor, and she and her posse continue to dig for new lows.

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    • July 16, 2025 at 11:37 AM
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    Apparently the White House is now supporting the Argentine government's appeal to not have its YPF shares handed over. I suppose Milei's crawling to Trump is paying off...

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • July 16, 2025 at 11:49 AM
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    Let's here what the judge has to say now....

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    • July 16, 2025 at 3:07 PM
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    There has to be something in it for trump.

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    • July 16, 2025 at 3:52 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    There has to be something in it for trump.

    Without a doubt...

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    • July 16, 2025 at 3:57 PM
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    Mineral rights?

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    • July 17, 2025 at 9:27 PM
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    YPF case: the US government's reasons for expressing its resounding support for Argentina - Buenos Aires Herald
    The Donald Trump administration is preparing a statement in favor of Argentina and against the transfer of 51% of YPF's shares to hedge funds
    buenosairesherald.com
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    • July 18, 2025 at 12:33 PM
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    Quote from GlasgowJohn

    https://buenosairesherald.com/world/ypf-case…t-for-argentina

    That article really helped me understand the YPF situation, cheers.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • July 18, 2025 at 7:08 PM
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    Splinter , summary, please? I keep trying to read it, and keep getting interrupted. Hopelessly bogged down.

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    • August 7, 2025 at 5:44 AM
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    Argentina Finally Emerges as a South American Oil Powerhouse | OilPrice.com https://share.google/E77f9ysimRtVmluRF

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • August 7, 2025 at 6:39 AM
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    A million barrels per day, by 2023? Will this lead to the economic turnaround Argentina has needed for decades?

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