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King Charles III coronation

  • Splinter
  • May 5, 2023 at 3:37 PM

There are 41 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 3,921 times. The latest Post (May 10, 2023 at 2:41 AM) was by Rice.

  • Carlos
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    • May 7, 2023 at 1:55 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    Does the Church of England allow divorce? Or only for its founder?

    I thnik it allows, Even the Roman Catholic Church allows a kind of "divorce" if you can demonstrate in a special Commission of the Vatican that some lack of fulfilling the reason of wedding. For example, to deny to one of the couple the right to have marital relationships, or to deny the possibility to have children'

    The RC Church never uses the word "divorce"but in fact they declare the nullity of the sacrament, which is mor or less the same. The process is long and costly, a business for the lawyers.

    I know several cases who got this, with very dubious reasons as I suspect.

    But int older times divorce was not well accepted in both societies, the Anglican and the Roman Catholic.

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    • May 7, 2023 at 1:58 PM
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    This is something they could come to regret. People who are denied the right to protest peacefully may turn to violence.

  • Splinter
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    • May 7, 2023 at 2:03 PM
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    When compared with Argentina it's one extreme to the other.

    :nanny:

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 7, 2023 at 2:08 PM
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  • UK Man
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    • May 7, 2023 at 2:23 PM
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  • Carlos
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    • May 7, 2023 at 2:32 PM
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    Quote from GlasgowJohn

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    Do not be so demanding, Glasgow John. Every city in the world has potholes unfilled.

  • SpaceNut
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    • May 7, 2023 at 3:32 PM
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    Charles and the late Queen didn't have any influence on roadworks being done or not done

    This is why this country sucks in reality

    No one can control the weather, unfortunately

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    • May 7, 2023 at 3:56 PM
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    I think that bit about the golden coach and the sand-filled potholes is pathetic. Is it true?

    Calls to mind “Let them eat cake.”

  • UK Man
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    • May 7, 2023 at 6:42 PM
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    And then there“s the dress code for the concert at Windsor today. WTF are they all wearing suits and ties? No normal human would go dressed to a concert like that.

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 7, 2023 at 7:16 PM
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    And then there“s the dress code for the concert at Windsor today. WTF are they all wearing suits and ties? No normal human would go dressed to a concert like that.

    Who sang at the concert?

    Was Elton J invited?

  • UK Man
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    • May 7, 2023 at 7:42 PM
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    Who sang at the concert?

    Was Elton J invited?

    Has beens and folk I've never heard of.

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 7, 2023 at 7:58 PM
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    My question re Elton was tongue in cheek.

    he was very close to Dianna and didnt like Charlie very much.

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    • May 7, 2023 at 8:09 PM
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    Perhaps the taxpayers feel a bit overwhelmed by the Royal extravaganzas for which they’ve paid the bill in th past 15 months: the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee, then the enormous funeral, and now the Coronation.

    Certainly all of these events have brought a tourism dividend to the city of London, but not everyone benefits from tourism, especially taxpayers in cities and towns far from the Capital.

    My mind keeps coming back to the sand-filled potholes dodged by the golden carriage. Of course the Royal Family isn’t responsible for road maintenance, but the city of London surely could have returned some of the tourist dollars from the two grand events of 2022, to fill the potholes and avoid the rather graphic appearance of a pre-French-Revolution class division.

    And yep, I think by mutual no-love-lost, Elton John won’t participate in future events hosted by Diana’s nemesis and husband, HRH.

  • Carlos
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    • May 7, 2023 at 8:23 PM
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    A thing that we must admire is how Britain organizes their celebrations, as the crowning of King Charles.

    Not for nothing the preferred music for the entrance of the bride and her father in the weddings in Buenos Aires is "Pomp and Circumstance", written by Sir Edward Elgar for the coronation of King Edward, following Queen Victoria, in 1903.

    And most of the educated people knows the letter: Land of Hope and Glory, Home of the free....

  • serafina
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    • May 7, 2023 at 8:46 PM
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    I call it disturbing because it removes the right to demonstrate peacefully and any disagreement with the very idea of monarchy was stamped on before it even had a chance to show itself.

    Indeed. That's when the things got real and what was just a folkloric show turned into an unfriendly reminder that the kingdom is not just a showbiz affaire.

    I always read royal gossip, since the times when I spent my lunch break reading the Daily Mail. However, I am not a fan of the Royal family or of the concept that someone is more worthy than somebody else just because he/she was born into some family. All the showoff of stuff that belongs to a museum (antique crowns, jewels, pins, furs, swords etc.) looks a tad too much in 2023.

    As for myself, I wouldn't appreciate being defined a subject, either. I get that UK citizens do not get a choice... but why? That's the question in 2023.

  • Carlos
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    • May 8, 2023 at 9:48 AM
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    Quote from Bombonera

    Carlos how would you summarise the sense of those Argentines watching the proceedings on the news? Curiosity, ambivalence, interest etc?

    I think you are referring to the news about the Coronation of King Charles III

    I guess that most of Argentines wishes to see a well prepared ceremony, which usually are not so in Republics.

    Someone will judge the exorbitant luxury and the use of old carriages, and others will see it with a bit of nostalgy and envy. In the elections of 2016, when Cristina lost, refused to give the symbols of power (the stick and the presidential badge) to the new president Macri. She was the unique ex president that did that. A proof of his lack of respect to traditions. I always see that our politicians, generally comes from very low social classes and lacks the sense of respect of traditions and good manners. An unthinkable feature in your well establised high class. Too much democracy leads to this mess.

    I hope this responds to your question. If there is any more, please send it.

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    • May 8, 2023 at 11:16 AM
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    This weekend, I read a lengthy account of the many holdings and enormous annual income from landholdings, etc., of the Royal Family. The extent is so vast that there has never been a total amount successfully ascribed to it, as there’s always a forgotten duchy, crate of precious stones, or the odd dozen Leonardo da Vinci paintings in a closet of a little-used castle somewhere.

    That’s all fine. If the British people don’t mind, it’s nobody else’s affair. And I’m not suggesting that Coronations shouldn’t be held with the greatest of pomp and extravagance.

    My question is this: with a coronation price tag of $250,000,000.00, and no coronations in the past 70 years, would it be fair for the Royal Family to foot the bill? Establishing a modest “Coronation

    Savings Account” with annual contributions of merely $3,571,428.57/year for the past 70 years would have added up to that quarter billion dollar party’s cost, in principal payments. And the Royal Family could still keep the interest on all that money, probably compounded quarterly!

    Wouldn’t it be a boost for the Royal Family to know they were paying their way and not placing the burden on taxpayers? That Nigel Q. Public, watching on tv as the new King attempted to dance at his coronation concert, wouldn’t have to pay for the extravaganza to which he wasn’t invited?

  • SpaceNut
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    • May 8, 2023 at 12:53 PM
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    I don't think it will be that long for the next Coronation, I reckon it will be another 20ish years, so wouldn't cost that much

    In reality, they should foot some of the bill, but they've already shown their generosity in doing charitable work

  • Splinter
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    • May 8, 2023 at 1:38 PM
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    They should be self supporting on my opinion

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • May 8, 2023 at 2:19 PM
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    They should be paying the whole bloody lot...

    I see that the Prince of Wales was spouting off in the press about how proud he was of his Dad.

    Proud?

    Proud because he happened to be born as Liz and Phil's oldest child?

    A load of nonsense......

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