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King Charles III coronation

    Who will be watching the coronation? We were going to be doing an open air car boot sale but it's been cancelled because of rain, so it looks like we'll be watching it.

    I have mixed feelings about the monarchy and the money they receive, but I must admit that Britain does these ceremonies better than anyone else.

    Here's a guide.

    Coronation timetable: Your complete guide to the day
    Processions, ancient rituals, a fly-past and the crowning moment - the key stages of King Charles III's coronation.
    www.bbc.com

    I will be watching, because this is an once in a lifetime event for me.


    I do like the royals, but not obsessed by wanting to read about them everyday or whenever a publication publishes stories about them


    Personally I think Harry and Meghan haven't done themselves any favours by talking shit about the family.....waaagh!!!!!

    Quote from Bombonera

    The public mood here is hard to judge. There have been “not my King” protestors in London today with some arrests.

    The future of the Monarchy is definitely under scrutiny but it’s the best known worldwide. And there is no doubt that Prince William’s sense of duty is incredibly strong and he certainly desires and expects to be crowned King in due course.

    It begs the question as to what mechanism is available to be invoked to bring it all to an end. I don’t believe it’s possible without stepping outside of the law and constitution.

    Those rubble rousers are always trying to ruin someone's fun. They knew that if the police had ignored them, the public were going to criticise them for not doing anything

    Quote from Splinter

    I can't see the monarchy being abolished in my lifetime. The process would be too painful.

    Remember Brexit? Look at the UK after that debacle.

    Cromwell did the same thing, it only backfired on him spectacularly. Those French monarchs must have been some devious people when they were in power

    I don’t want to disappoint you, Splinter , but I was expecting that.


    Incidentally, what happened to the beloved late monarch’s request that her son’s wife be called “Queen Consort,” rather than “Queen?”


    My husband’s rude response was that Charles-In-Charge said “Right. Well she’s dead and I’m making the rules now.”

    I was wondering about that too. Why that, of all the elements, I wonder?

    Quote from Splinter

    Penny Mordaunt looked fabulous by the way. And that sword...

    a couple of tweets about Penny:


    Liz Truss made Penny Mordaunt Lord President of the Council to keep her out of the spotlight.

    She has spent most of the day carrying a giant sword in front of millions, so that turned out well.


    And


    Penny Mordaunt has now been holding that sword longer than Liz Truss was Prime Minister.

    I saw many resemblances of the Roman Catholic Mass. Probably because the ideal of Henry VIII was only to be the chief of the English Christian Church, and have the power to divorce from Catherine of Aragon, but the influence of continental protestants was evident later (Zwinglio and Luther)

    One must consider the great dilemma that the Pope had at that time. He could give reason to Herny VIII but in doing this he will offend the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Charles V, as Catherine of Aragon was his aunt.

    Anyway, Catherine of Aragon in buried in Walsingham Cathedral, and it seems that she was loved by the people.

    Also was unfair the penalty to death to Anne Boleyn. and some others wifes of HenryVIII.

    In the present circumstances with the current Pope, things perhaps would be different.

    Carlos , thanks for the interesting history. I never knew of the unfortunate dilemma Henry VIII forced on the Pope. Who could afford to displease the Holy Roman Emperor?


     Do you know why, in this very public ceremony, the anointing with oil was done behind a screen?  It seemed very odd.


    Splinter , I'd like to know more about the arrests of the protesters. Was there a protest perimeter set up, so people could be heard without ruining the coronation?

    Quote from Carlos

    I saw many resemblances of the Roman Catholic Mass. Probably because the ideal of Henry VIII was only to be the chief of the English Christian Church, and have the power to divorce from Catherine of Aragon, but the influence of continental protestants was evident later (Zwinglio and Luther)

    One must consider the great dilemma that the Pope had at that time. He could give reason to Herny VIII but in doing this he will offend the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Charles V, as Catherine of Aragon was his aunt.

    Anyway, Catherine of Aragon in buried in Walsingham Cathedral, and it seems that she was loved by the people.

    Also was unfair the penalty to death to Anne Boleyn. and some others wifes of HenryVIII.

    In the present circumstances with the current Pope, things perhaps would be different.

    The only difference between RC and CoE, is who’s the head, that’s how I view it


    RC head: Pope

    CoE head: King Charles

    Quote from Rice

    Carlos , thanks for the interesting history. I never knew of the unfortunate dilemma Henry VIII forced on the Pope. Who could afford to displease the Holy Roman Emperor?


    Do you know why, in this very public ceremony, the anointing with oil was done behind a screen? It seemed very odd.


    Splinter , I'd like to know more about the arrests of the protesters. Was there a protest perimeter set up, so people could be heard without ruining the coronation?

    From what I've read, the protesters were arrested for simply turning up, their placards confiscated and some held in custody for for more than 12 hours.

    I call it disturbing because it removes the right to demonstrate peacefully and any disagreement with the very idea of monarchy was stamped on before it even had a chance to show itself.

    Heavy handed doesn't quite describe the actions of the police, but bear in mind that a new law was passed, coincidentally just a few days before the coronation, in essence giving police the power to remove anyone who protested against the monarchy.

    Police made tough calls on Coronation arrests, says minister
    Lucy Frazer says police were right to factor in the momentous occasion after criticism over 52 arrests.
    www.bbc.com