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The dictatorship 1976-83

  • Splinter
  • December 28, 2022 at 7:11 PM

There are 28 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 4,092 times. The latest Post (March 23, 2025 at 4:41 PM) was by UK Man.

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    • December 28, 2022 at 7:11 PM
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    This fascinating film from TV Publica is a must watch if you are interested in how Argentina descended into this abyss.

    I remember the day because I was living in Martinez at the time and everyone breathed a sigh of relief because in all but name, it was a civil war.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • March 25, 2023 at 8:45 PM
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    Not easy reading and simply adds fuel to the fire.

    The final voyage of Argentina’s “death flights” - Buenos Aires Herald
    One of the navy’s infamous “death flight” airplanes is set to be repatriated in April
    buenosairesherald.com

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • March 25, 2023 at 9:20 PM
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    Sad. But I was enthralled by the movie 1985. It was superbly enacted.

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    • March 30, 2023 at 6:59 PM
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    @Bombonera , if you have an opportunity to tour ESMA, be sure to do so. We went on Museum Night, in early December 2019, and were able to talk with people whose family members had been imprisoned and tortured there; some never returned home, as they were drugged, loaded onto planes, flown out over the Rio de la Plata, and dumped out.

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    • March 30, 2023 at 7:02 PM
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    The film Argentina 1985 tells a half of the truth. It deliberately put in oblivion the guerrilla warfare which was operating between 1970 and 1976.

    Many people, especially the expats, do not know that the Third World War began in the Cuba Revolution and tried to capture the whole of Latin America. And they try to convince us that on March 24, 1976, a group of Military decided to kill, suppress, torture and other cruelties because they liked.

    The Military intervention was the logical response to the subversive leftist groups, who from 1970 to 1975,, under constititional government,continued to attack anyone. Those subversive were led by the Cubans, and supported by the Russia, which wished to challenge the United States in their backyard, Latin America.

    I regret very much the method, illlegal of course, copied from the French in the Argelia figth for independence.

    But the worst, I regret the intervention on Falkland-Malvinas, a capricious move without any possibility of triumph.

    The majority of my countrymen were celebrating the coup d. etat of March1976. At least, we had not became Cuba

    I know that this is very controversial, but I was 27 years old when this happened. Therefore if anyone of this forum has swallowed the other side of the truth, I try to open your mind and seeing the whole story.

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    • March 30, 2023 at 7:13 PM
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    Thanks Carlos. Not only controversial, but unresolved struggle for true freedom and democratic reform. The issues and histories are complex, multi dimensional amalgam of human desires. "I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma: but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest." (Winston Churchill, radio broadcast, 1 Oct. 1939)

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    • March 31, 2023 at 9:59 AM
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    Quote from Bombonera

    Rice I went in November. It’s only a few stops down on the train and I’m going to go again. Not least because somehow I missed the basement. Though the less said about that part of the place the better perhaps. But still, that’s a missing part of my experience I need to put right.

    Also there’s a Malvinas museum around the back which I want to visit too.

    We visited the Falklands/Malvinas museum a couple of years ago and it was a moving experience, spoiled in large part by the Peronist propaganda.

    The ESMA museum is nearby and I definitely need to go there, but Adri my wife, who is Argentine, doesn't like to be reminded of it since many of her friends disappeared.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 10, 2024 at 1:14 PM
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    A fascinating documentary about Jose Lopez Rega, aka 'El Brujo', how he came to power from being a humble policeman and his influence over Peron, not to mention his AAA murder squad.

    A very dangerous man.

    This one is easier to follow.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 10, 2024 at 6:22 PM
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    I’m wondering if the second one is in English. In any case “not available in your country” on that one is an even bigger roadblock than my “mas despacio, por favor” Spanish is, for the other two. Wish I could understand rapid-fire Spanish, but I just can’t.

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    • January 11, 2024 at 8:12 AM
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    Quote from Rice

    I’m wondering if the second one is in English. In any case “not available in your country” on that one is an even bigger roadblock than my “mas despacio, por favor” Spanish is, for the other two. Wish I could understand rapid-fire Spanish, but I just can’t.

    The BA Times gives an idea of who he was, in English.

    Murders, threats, guerrillas and the occult: those years before the coup
    I confess that I am still trying to work out why Argentina was plunged into the violence of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.
    www.batimes.com.ar

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • January 11, 2024 at 9:17 PM
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    Thanks, Splinter . I didn’t really know about him, or about Isabelita’s belief in the occult. That whole time was so horrendous.

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    • September 25, 2024 at 8:26 AM
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    This documentary will be a must see.

    Documentary brings dictatorship 'death flights' trauma to big screen
    Director Nicolás Gil Lavedra premieres new film 'Traslados,' an investigative documentary on a very dark chapter of the nation’s not-too-distant history: the…
    www.batimes.com.ar

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • September 25, 2024 at 10:55 AM
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    This film will be really difficult to watch, but necessary.

    This part of the review had me scratching my head:

    “A central theme of Traslados is the fate of Esther Ballestrino, Azucena Villaflor and María Ponce – the founders of the Madres de Plaza de Mayo human rights group that fought and still fights for answers about the fate of the disappeared.

    They were kidnapped along with French nuns Alice Domon and Léonie Duquet and seven other activists, and thrown from a plane on the night of December 14, 1977, according to a reconstruction of events.”

    The Madres group was already founded in 1977, and the founders themselves were kidnapped and taken on one of the infamous one-way flights?

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    • November 23, 2024 at 12:33 PM
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    Here's a fascinating discussion about Argentine terrorism in the 70s, chaired by William. F. Buckley, with Robert Cox, editor of The Buenos Aires Herald and Juan de Onis and Joseph Benham.

    Recorded in Feb 1977, just short of a year after military coup of March 1976, one can't help but notice the grim atmosphere and guarded answers of the three men.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • November 24, 2024 at 10:53 AM
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    It was interesting to hear Robert Cox say "This is not a brutal government..."

    That all changed went they went after him.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Bombonera
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    • November 24, 2024 at 2:48 PM
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    I’m still watching that video but it’s fascinating so far.

    Robert Cox lived in Acassuso back then and therefore not far from where you were living back then Splinter if I remember correctly from one of your videos when you rode past your old house.

    Edit: i was thinking of Andrew Graham Yooll not Robert Cox I believe.

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    • November 25, 2024 at 5:02 PM
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    I finally had a chance to watch the whole hour. Fascinating - - Especially the reference to the visit from Amnesty International.

    What became of the three journalists? I wonder if William F Buckley ever did a follow-up interview?

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    • March 21, 2025 at 12:40 PM
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    Presumably, Monday 24th March is a holiday because of this.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • March 21, 2025 at 6:14 PM
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    Not another f'íng holiday? :rolleyes:

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    • March 21, 2025 at 7:32 PM
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    That’s the first time I’ve seen her on video.

    Was she highly political like Eva, or did she simply allow her husband to elevate her to the vice presidency in order to keep the power all in the family?

    Her lengthy house arrest seems almost superfluous. But given the bloodthirsty military who overthrew her, I’m surprised they didn’t simply push her out of the helicopter on the night of the coup.

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