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Venezuelan plane held at Ezeiza with Iranian suspects.

  • Carlos
  • June 12, 2022 at 3:47 PM

There are 22 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 3,018 times. The latest Post (June 16, 2022 at 5:33 PM) was by Rice.

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    • June 12, 2022 at 3:47 PM
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    Perhaps this notice is not relative to this thread.

    A weird huge plane from Venezuela came from Iran with a venezuelan crew (6) and the extraoridnary number of 19 iranians justo to carry what they said it was car parts.

    The plane tried to hid his ID by turning of his transponder, so it was detected by the Ezeiza radar but not his identification.

    Finally the plane landed in Ezeiza. The plane was claimed by the US as it may belong to a terrorist group.

    The shameful thing is that we are dong nothing, when we received two terrible attacks from Iran (AMIA and Israel Embassy).

    If I were the government i will put all the crew and the 19 iranians in prison and return the plane to the USA, just to proove our loyalty to international laws.

    An use this prisoners as a pressure to oblige Iran to send us their terrorists to be judged here.

    No wonder why we have a bad reputation in all the world due to this weird and stupid foreign policy.

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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:27 PM
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    Carlos , I think there are only 5 Iranians on board.

    The problem is that they same to be related to the Iranian Imperial Guard

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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:32 PM
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    Car parts? Washing machine parts more like for money laundering. :D

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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:38 PM
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    Apparently, the cargo of car parts is true.

    But there are doubts about the true identity and nature of the Iranians on board.

    Here is a decent article with some background ( some media say 5 Iranians others say 9)

    A Venezuelan Boeing 747 with ties to Iran is detained in Argentina
    Last Monday, June 6, was an intense day in the usually mellow Argentinian skies. The dense fog that covered Buenos Aires' airports forced operators to proceed
    www.aviacionline.com
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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:43 PM
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    Quote from GlasgowJohn

    Apparently, the cargo of car parts is true.

    But there are doubts about the true identity and nature of the Iranians on board.

    Here is a decent article with some background ( some media say 5 Iranians others say 9)

    https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/06/a-vene…d-in-argentina/

    Much ado about nothing then.

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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:46 PM
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    These Iranian boys are up to no good ......

    They sell the plane to the Venezuelans, but they are still teaching them what to do a year later.

    Sounds dodgy.

    lock them up!

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    • June 12, 2022 at 7:57 PM
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    Quote from GlasgowJohn

    These Iranian boys are up to no good ......

    They sell the plane to the Venezuelans, but they are still teaching them what to do a year later.

    Sounds dodgy.

    lock them up!

    Slow learners maybe? ^^

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    • June 12, 2022 at 8:05 PM
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    It seems that the argentine government has seized the plane and it will remain for the moment in Ezeiza.

    After the inspection, the plane must be sent to the USA. And in my point of view, the crew and the iranians as well, to be imprisoned in a hard secirity prison anywhere in the USA, (After being judged in a decent argentine court (difficult to find, I guess).

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    • June 12, 2022 at 8:09 PM
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    Cargo planes of this type normally have crews of 5-7people.

    No one knows why this plane had a crew of19 people.....

  • Splinter June 13, 2022 at 9:39 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Venezuelan plane held at Ezeiza” to “Venezuelan plane held at Ezeiza with Iranian suspects.”.
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    • June 14, 2022 at 2:15 PM
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    The entire government cabinet is washing its hands of this mess and Alberto simply doesn't know wtf is going on, at least that's the impression he's giving and sending signals that it should all be left to the courts to take care of.

    The plane was used by the Iranian interior minister to travel from Ciudad del Este, a known black market hotspot to Venezuela.

    The US suspects that the plane is linked to terrorism because of the Iran link.

    Both Paraguay and Uruguay warned Argentina about their suspicions over the mainly Irani crew.

    The Kristina mob are saying nothing because of their warm links to both Venezuela and Iran.

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    There is a fact that draws the attention of both Argentine and Paraguayan intelligence. In the flights of May 13 from Paraguay to Aruba, and the one of June 8 that entered Argentina, it was piloted by Gholamreza Ghasemi Abbas.

    They point out that he would be a shareholder and member of the board of directors and executive director of the airline Qeshm Fars Air, used by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to move weapons and military equipment to Syria during the civil war in that country. His name matches a former Iranian Revolutionary Guards officer.


    More reading:

    A Venezuelan Boeing 747 with ties to Iran is detained in Argentina
    Last Monday, June 6, was an intense day in the usually mellow Argentinian skies. The dense fog that covered Buenos Aires' airports forced operators to proceed
    www.aviacionline.com

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east…onged%20to%20it.


    Five out of the nineteen crew are Iranians with links to Quds, a branch of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and who are not listed in the manifest, but are known to have had links to the group who are said to have bombed the Jewish centre (AMIA) in BA.

    The entire crew have been moved to the Plaza Central Canning hotel where they are allowed to come and go as they please, even to the local shopping mall.

    The actual plane was sold to a Venezuelan airline over a year ago, so why are crew said to have links to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard still flying in the plane?

    As usual in Argentina, this incident raises more questions than answers and the shadow of Nisman is never far away.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

    Edited 2 times, last by Splinter: Merged a post created by Splinter into this post. (June 14, 2022 at 3:30 PM).

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    • June 15, 2022 at 12:33 PM
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    It's now emerged that several government officials pressurised the PSA (port and airport police) who in turn put pressure on the oil companies, to refuel the Venezuelan 747 as soon as possible so that it could fly away and the scandal with it.

    But the PSA correctly said it wasn't in their power to do that and the oil companies, Axion, Shell and YPF, refused to refuel the aircraft because of the US sanctions in place.

    The plot thickens and the government is behaving like a headless chicken.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • June 15, 2022 at 2:01 PM
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    One of the Venezuelan crew members apparently was best mates with Hugo Chaves and participated in one of his coup attempts before Chaves went down the "democratic" election route.

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    • June 15, 2022 at 2:10 PM
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    And there's another plane on its way from Caracas to Ezeiza, this time an Airbus A340-600 which was recently transferred from Mahan Air (Iran) to Conviasa, the state owned Venezuela airline which is under sanctions by the US government.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • June 15, 2022 at 6:19 PM
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    Apparently it has a technical stop in Bolivia.

    Big rumour is that they will change planes to a Bolivian plane in Santa Cruz to avoid the risk of impounding the Conviasa plane

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    • June 15, 2022 at 7:34 PM
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    Here’s another account:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/argentina-authorities-seek-data-on-iranian-venezuelan-crew/2022/06/14/2e2085ea-ec11-11ec-9f90-79df1fb28296_story.html

    I just don’t get the significance?

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    • June 15, 2022 at 9:27 PM
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    Rice - the belief is that the Iranians on board may be part of the security services of the Iranian government

    Remember this part of the WP article -

    Argentina suffered two terrorist attacks that authorities blame on Iran, a 1992 explosion at the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires and another at a Jewish organization in 1994.

    Some people also think that Iran killed Alberto Nisman on instructions of a particular "lady"

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    • June 15, 2022 at 11:44 PM
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    So is there speculation that a particular “lady” was bringing the Iranians in, for more terrorism? Was the large number of crew to cover the return flight, when the Iranians would not be on board?

    Yes, I’m very aware of the 1992 and 1994 attacks on Argentine soil. I’m just not making the connection?

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    • June 16, 2022 at 7:42 AM
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    Rice - its all speculation right now

    No one knows anything, so people make up their own version.

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    • June 16, 2022 at 9:17 AM
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    Yes, it is all speculation, but the key is the relationships Argentina has with both Venezuela and Iran.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • June 16, 2022 at 9:30 AM
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    It is highly possible that K and her Kronies did not know what was happening.

    bUT I don't trust the Iranians one little bit, though.

    Can't work out the reason for the amount of crew on the flight - that doesn't make sense at all.

    Did you see the reference to the plane traveling from Ciudad del Este to Aruba with a load of ciggies?

    The cigarette factory is owned by Paraguay's former president Cortes!

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