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Argentina elections 2023

  • Splinter
  • May 11, 2022 at 11:32 AM

There are 93 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 14,254 times. The latest Post (July 23, 2023 at 10:00 PM) was by Rice.

  • Splinter
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    • May 11, 2022 at 11:32 AM
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    It's about 18 months until the presidential elections but the race has already begun, especially with both the incumbents and opposition being in such a mess. The dark horse is of course Javier Milei to whom the younger generation are flocking in droves. At least 29% of those who voted Macri last time around will vote for Milei, probably as a protest vote. He also represents a kind of Trumpian candidate as he rages against EVERYTHING.

    Let me ponder on my forecast...

    The appeal of Javier Milei – an autopsy of the right
    Why the outspoken liberal economist is growing at the expense of traditional politicians. Social network populism, hatred towards the state and a not-so…
    www.batimes.com.ar

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • May 11, 2022 at 2:28 PM
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    I’ve been reading about him. Is there ANY political good news from Argentina?

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    • May 11, 2022 at 3:32 PM
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    My husband is crazy about him and he is the third leg in our relationship. He is going to see him at the book fair today. I can't stand yellers, no matter how correct they are in their argument.

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    • May 11, 2022 at 3:48 PM
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    What do Milei’s fans like about him? Yes, of course he rages at the current government, but has he put forth any new suggestions for changing the system itself, rather than just shuffling the players?

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    • May 11, 2022 at 4:58 PM
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    Quote from serafina

    My husband is crazy about him and he is the third leg in our relationship. He is going to see him at the book fair today. I can't stand yellers, no matter how correct they are in their argument.

    Adri's son is voting for him because he says there's no one else viable.

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    What do Milei’s fans like about him? Yes, of course he rages at the current government, but has he put forth any new suggestions for changing the system itself, rather than just shuffling the players?

    He wants to tear down the entire system and start again from what I can gather. Mind you, with this failed state, it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • May 11, 2022 at 5:17 PM
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    Adri's son is voting for him because he says there's no one else viable.

    He wants to tear down the entire system and start again from what I can gather. Mind you, with this failed state, it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

    Whether it’s not a bad idea depends entirely on his plans for replacing the admittedly horribly corrupt system. Does he have a stated suggestion, or is he relying only upon riding to power on a wave of discontent and anger?

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    • May 11, 2022 at 5:58 PM
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    I hear that Milei is backed by Eduardo Eurnekian, one of the wealthiest Argentine businessmen.

    So if he stands he will have the financial clout to mount a decent campaign.

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    • May 12, 2022 at 9:18 AM
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    What does he believe in, stand for? What is his plan for reorganizing the government? What is Eurnekian’s interest in him?

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    • May 12, 2022 at 10:01 AM
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    He seems to be fairly right-wing in his economic viewpoint. Keen on reducing subsidies and getting people to work for any money the government gives them.

    Eurnekian likes to control all new political movements to make sure his back is covered in case they were to win an election.

    Milei worked for a time at AA2000, the company that manages the concession at almost all of Argentina's airports.

    I know a few guys there and when I ask what Milei did there, they tell me he was a "consultant"

    Knowing my friend Eurnekian he will be reaching out to all the other parties as well.

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    • May 12, 2022 at 3:13 PM
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    Yes. The super rich make a practice of donating to all sides, to make sure their agendas will be advanced by the eventual winner.

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    • May 12, 2022 at 6:46 PM
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    Is it a wig?

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    • May 13, 2022 at 6:59 AM
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    Is it a wig?

    Actually, I think it's real.....

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    • May 13, 2022 at 9:46 AM
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    Actually, I think it's real.....

    I'm surprised his backers havent told him to get it cut then....makes him look a dafty. A Ken Dodd lookalike.

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    • May 13, 2022 at 10:22 AM
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    Apparently , Mirtha Legrande asked him offstage... it's real he told her.

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    • May 13, 2022 at 1:06 PM
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    I'm surprised his backers havent told him to get it cut then....makes him look a dafty. A Ken Dodd lookalike.

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    It's all very carefully coiffured, especially when he's angry, which is a lot.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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    • May 13, 2022 at 8:36 PM
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    And look at trump and Boris Johnson. By comparison, Javier’s isn’t bad at all.

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    • May 13, 2022 at 10:15 PM
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    And look at trump and Boris Johnson. By comparison, Javier’s isn’t bad at all.

    Difference is the US and the UK have a few bob so anyone can be in charge of them....the US especially. ^^

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    • May 14, 2022 at 2:19 PM
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    You raise a good point, politically. I was simply talking about their atrocious haircuts.

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    • May 14, 2022 at 9:43 PM
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    Quote from Rice

    Whether it’s not a bad idea depends entirely on his plans for replacing the admittedly horribly corrupt system. Does he have a stated suggestion, or is he relying only upon riding to power on a wave of discontent and anger?

    He has some economical ideas, however he poses as an Economy professor and not as a politician. I don't think he talks to the kind of people he should be talking to. He is angry and everybody is angry with the political situation, but that's not enough to really shift the majority of votes he needs to be elected.

    I think he wants to run for the presidency. He won't win. But he will stir up the waters a little bit. However, I am afraid that once in the pit, he will be like anybody else, forming alliances with a side or the other. He has to.

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    • May 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM
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    Quote from serafina

    He has some economical ideas, however he poses as an Economy professor and not as a politician. I don't think he talks to the kind of people he should be talking to. He is angry and everybody is angry with the political situation, but that's not enough to really shift the majority of votes he needs to be elected.

    I think he wants to run for the presidency. He won't win. But he will stir up the waters a little bit. However, I am afraid that once in the pit, he will be like anybody else, forming alliances with a side or the other. He has to.

    Must admit I always assumed he was some sort of TV personality whenever I saw him on the telly....my wife was watching I never watch Argie TV. I never relised until I saw this thread he was into politics and a candidate for Presidency. I think the bloke's a nutter...then again this country's used to being run by nutcases. :rolleyes:

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