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65% increase on digital services - My Adobe experience

  • serafina
  • April 1, 2021 at 10:09 AM

There are 14 replies in this Thread which has previously been viewed 2,722 times. The latest Post (July 3, 2024 at 4:29 PM) was by SpaceNut.

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  • serafina
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    • April 1, 2021 at 10:09 AM
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    I am a heavy Adobe Pro user and I subscribed to a paid plan in 2020. The monthly subscription rate for Argentina is significantly lower than for the rest of the world, however, they only accept Argentinian credit cards as a method of payment. Since we have none, I used my foreign credit card with the official rate. Still cheaper than subscribing as a first world user.

    Today I received this email from Adobe (sound like an April fool's joke in the first world, but very credible in Argentina):

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    Con los recientes cambios en las leyes fiscales de Argentina, a partir del 1 de abril de 2021, Adobe se ve obligada a aplicar un impuesto del 65% junto con tus próximos pagos. El 30% corresponde al impuesto "PAIS" y el 35% al impuesto de la Resolución 4815/2020. El precio base de tu plan de Adobe no sufrirá ningún cambio.

    My current monthly charge is 581 ARS. The new amount will be 958,65 ARS, which means 10,43 USD per month.

    First world users pay 180 USD /year or about 14 USD/month if billed monthly.

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  • Rice
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    • April 1, 2021 at 12:18 PM
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    Odd that they didn’t process your payment immediately upon receipt, instead of waiting until the day the 65% tax goes into effect.

  • Splinter
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    • April 1, 2021 at 2:52 PM
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    I was always under the impression that these ridiculous taxes wouldn't apply if you use a foreign card, with the object being to stem the flow of US$ leaving the country.

    Using a foreign card, this isn't the case and is why I use PayPal for software purchases as it doesn't attract the Argie taxes.

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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  • serafina
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    • April 1, 2021 at 6:47 PM
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    I don't know why the taxes are applicable to me.

    The purchase is in ARS, I pay with my Wise card and depending on my balance, I get charged in GBP or EUR at the official rate.

    Unfortunately, Adobe only accepts credit card payments, so I have my hands tied.

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  • Splinter
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    • April 1, 2021 at 7:56 PM
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    Quote from serafina

    I don't know why the taxes are applicable to me.

    The purchase is in ARS, I pay with my Wise card and depending on my balance, I get charged in GBP or EUR at the official rate.

    Unfortunately, Adobe only accepts credit card payments, so I have my hands tied.

    There's something very wrong there because these taxes are only applicable to Argentina issued cards, for the reasons I previously stated. Unless it's because you chose to pay in AR$?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

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  • SpaceNut
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    • April 1, 2021 at 9:34 PM
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    This is why I'm still using CS6 both PS and lightroom. Its sad to say, they will increase it eventually, even if this was an April's Fool joke

  • gramps
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    • May 11, 2021 at 9:02 AM
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    I guess software development has a great future https://mlsdev.com/services/custom-software-development. Finally, your software development company should be versatile. You need a company that can implement and deploy software solutions in various environments. A company that can handle software development solutions in India, Japan, Germany, UK, USA, Australia, China, France, Spain, Romania, Bulgaria, Egypt, Brazil, Russia, South Africa, Turkey, Egypt, Singapore, or anywhere else is preferable. A flexible software development company will be able to take your requirements and expectations and create a custom software development company solution that works for you. Therefore, choose a company that has experience and is ready to work with you and your industry.Finally, your software development company should be versatile. You need a company that can implement and deploy software solutions in various environments. A company that can handle software development solutions in India, Japan, Germany, UK, USA, Australia, China, France, Spain, Romania, Bulgaria, Egypt, Brazil, Russia, South Africa, Turkey, Egypt, Singapore, or anywhere else is preferable. A flexible software development company will be able to take your requirements and expectations and create a custom software development company solution that works for you. Therefore, choose a company that has experience and is ready to work with you and your industry.

  • Splinter
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    • June 26, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    Did you know?

    A Brit In Buenos Aires

  • Rice
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    • June 26, 2024 at 12:35 PM
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    Not a good development.

  • serafina
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    • June 26, 2024 at 12:55 PM
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    I did not!

  • GlasgowJohn
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    • June 26, 2024 at 1:59 PM
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    They are all at it!!!

  • aficionado
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    • June 27, 2024 at 9:29 AM
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    Did you know?

    This is old news that already had some public uproar. Adobe reversed few days later.

    Adobe to update vague AI terms after users threaten to cancel subscriptions
    Adobe scrambles to earn back user trust by updating terms next week.
    arstechnica.com

    What was also interesting last week, was USA FTC claiming the cancellation fee of the annual "contract" is not allowed. FTC has no prosecute power so nothing will change. In Argentina it is one of the few countries that Adobe cannot, though if things change to be less regulated I imagine they might implement the cancellation fee.

    Adobe’s hidden cancellation fee is unlawful, FTC suit says
    Adobe knowingly "trapped" customers into annual subscriptions, the FTC alleged.
    arstechnica.com
  • serafina
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    • June 27, 2024 at 11:05 AM
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    Many companies are locking in users with annual contracts and implementing weird rules.

    My Parallels subscription, for example, renewed on last January for another year for $99/year.

    This week, Parallels is running a 25% off promotion which would cost me $80, but I can't take advantage of it because - they say - you cannot buy a renewal in advance.

    I am currently on the same boat with ABBYY Fine Reader, waiting for November for their BlackFriday deal to buy it again instead of renewing it when it expired in May 2024.

    If I am patient enough to wait for the BlackFriday, I can keep renewing it year after year using the BlackFriday deal instead of paying full price every year, like I did in the past.

    It seems a dumb marketing strategy to me,as I could go with a competitor in the meanwhile.

    I am very patient :)

  • aficionado
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    • June 27, 2024 at 12:18 PM
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    My Parallels subscription

    Free open source VirtualBox from Oracle has worked fine for me the past 15+ years on all my Mac and MBP machines to run Windows. It is the same as Parallels or probably has more features. Though I’m not up to date on what Parallels offers for running Windows on Mac.

  • SpaceNut
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    • July 3, 2024 at 4:29 PM
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    Did you know?

    I did hear of it, and I'm glad I've not signed up to their subscription. I still use CS6 and LR6 (perpetual software), and boy am I glad I dodged the bullet on their subs and ToS, as you can see by the screenshot, there is no "Disagree" and "Cancel subscription" options at the bottom, just "Accept and continue". There is a FTC lawsuit against Adobe for their hidden cancellation links and fees (when you eventually get the link). I just hope that the courts sees this as being against the law, but unfortunately, I don't know

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