Cacerolazo in Buenos Aires against the liberation of hundreds of criminals!

@JAN, which news are calling it fake news. All the TV I saw yesterday was showing prisoners who were out and seemingly reoffended. I know Alberto called it fake news, but I think the media has been showing the truth of the situation, no?

it's amazing how quickly it backfired on the government. It seems criminals are going to be criminals. Some of them are out 5 minutes and are at it again. It would be hilarious if not for the gravity of their crimes.

does anyone think that this is the judges revenge after the decision by Alberto that they have to pay income tax this year?

I think Iran did it too, but it's besides the point really.

If I was paranoid I would suggest this is a big plan to essentially create a political dictatorship in Argentina at worst. At best, it could be seen as a full frontal attack on the middle class.

• Keep people locked down, using COVID-19 as the perfect excuse.
• Extend it through the winter because, of course, the virus is worse in colder weather.
• Allow the economy to crumble so the government can buy out vulnerable infrastructure and companies.
• Allow crime to run rampant, spreading fear (notice the clear increase in crime over the last week?)
• Have a growing control over people, where they go, how they move, etc.
• Keep the lower economic classes on side through 10,000 pesos that will keep them in drugs and beer (talk of this payment again in June... where does the money come from? Well printing money, making that 10,000 pesos less valuable by the day).
• Have total control over international travel, even to the extent of seeking to shut it down entirely.
  
• That control over movement seems to largely involve the middle class. Are they policing movements in and around the villas?

Why the things above are happening is open for debate, but what is not in doubt is the fact ALL those things are happening. I am sure some of your can even think of other things to add to the list. Honestly, if I didn't have kids tied to this country I would be leaving Argentina ASAP.

@JAN

Amazing. In many countries, and certainly most democracies, freeing prisoners and re-employing cops that are dirty, incompetent, or both would be enough to bring down a president or prime minister. It would certainly make a second term all but impossible. Here, we're banging pots and pans and in three years all will be forgotten and the rats will be back in power.

I don't buy into the global conspiracies about COVID-19, but it is becoming clear all the conspiracies in Argentina are not conspiracies at all. The virus is a convenience for the government and some VERY shady things are happening. Alberto has even made it clear he does not care about the economy during this time... of course, hiding it behind the greater good for the health system.

In your opinion @JAN , what's the endgame here?

• Keep people locked down, using COVID-19 as the perfect excuse.
• Extend it through the winter because, of course, the virus is worse in colder weather.
• Allow the economy to crumble so the government can buy out vulnerable infrastructure and companies.
• Allow crime to run rampant, spreading fear (notice the clear increase in crime over the last week?)
• Have a growing control over people, where they go, how they move, etc.
• Keep the lower economic classes on side through 10,000 pesos that will keep them in drugs and beer (talk of this payment again in June... where does the money come from? Well printing money, making that 10,000 pesos less valuable by the day).
• Have total control over international travel, even to the extent of seeking to shut it down entirely.
• That control over movement seems to largely involve the middle class. Are they policing movements in and around the villas?
• So, 390 shitty coppers given their jobs back... more to come? Surely.
• As reported on the other forum, CFK managed to get one of her cronies into the leadership role of ANSeS... which controls around 40% of all the wealth in Argentina.
• Aaannnd, political prisoners released (I forgot about that one, thanks @JAN)
  

I hate talking like this because I often think it's putting the cart before the horse. However, I think for expats, it's time to at least have a serious backup plan for leaving Argentina. I know that's not possible right now, but I am going to have a contingency (i.e. save enough money) so if I need to move in the future I can do it. To be clear, things will have to get a whole lot worse - like Venezuela - for me to leave, but I think there are a lot of things happening that people should be worried about.

Interestingly, CFK stole from the country in a big way and probably has designs on doing so again. However, I think she is far more dangerous than being a thief. I think she is a megalomaniac, on the extreme left in the way Hitler was on the extreme right, and wants to be a dictator. The money is not the important thing to her, but she uses the stolen money to keep her followers onside. It's a means to an end for her. I fear Argentina may one day wish CFK only wanted to steal money from them.

Splinter - Out of curiosity, who are you talking to about these subjects as they seem to disagree with you on most stuff.

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My better half and her son.

Are they Alberto voters or just don't think the situation is that bad?