https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-54768611
Coronavirus around the world
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Heartbreaking for the families and businesses that are adversely affected, but heartening that the intention is to be guided by the facts.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54767118
What do you do if you live in a country that vehemently challenges the facts, and continues to plunge straight down into the abyss?
Fact: yesterday there were more NEW cases of COVID-19 in the US, than the entire number of cases in China since January 1, 2020.
Let that sink in.
Will that be the case in Argentina at a future date?
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One cannot escape the fact that there appears to be an overreaction.
QuoteVery well put. Annabel Fenwick-Elliott, SENIOR CONTENT EDITOR
30 OCTOBER 2020 • 1:36 PMIn three years of writing for The Telegraph, I have never received so many comments and emails from a single story. In it I confessed, such was my exasperation over the UK’s ever more nonsensical lockdown strategy, that I was almost starting to believe this pandemic really could be a conspiracy.
'Almost' was the operative word here. I do not buy into any of the theories that have (yet) been put to me. Indeed my profound scepticism about lockdown extends to most things in life; religion, star signs, and conspiracy theories included.
But the overwhelming reader response makes one thing very clear: most of you are not keyboard warriors wearing tin hats, but a contingent of people who are understandably alarmed by our Government's ham-fisted response to this virus, and fed up with having their objections and questions squashed and ignored.
These are no small quibbles. Not in the history of modern democracy have we been ordered en masse to surrender such monumental freedoms, at such a high cost, for so long, with no end in sight.
No wonder members of the public are demanding a better explanation as to why we are still hiding, stagnating and going broke over a virus with a 99 per cent survival rate.
No wonder conspiracy theories are gathering steam all over the world – what do you expect when a situation makes so little sense? We are a species motivated to find answers; prone to getting creative when we lack them.
We may be used to it now, but step outside our new normal for a moment. If someone, without telling you why, had informed you last October that within a year, Europe's offices and city centres would stand deserted, its citizens subject to night-time curfews, alcohol bans, travel restrictions and the mandated wearing of face shields; that spending the night with one's non-live-in partner would be punishable by a fine and visiting one's family abroad would be banned - you might assume, horrified, that Kim Jong-Un, armed with more nukes than we previously knew existed, had rolled in and taken over the Western world.
If that same person told you that, no, this wouldn’t be the result of nuclear war, but a virus which in that year accounted for little more than two per cent of the total global death toll; one that presented some danger to the elderly and infirm but spared most of the population even from mild symptoms ... well. You probably wouldn't believe them.
Why, then, should it come as any surprise, given this is genuinely our reality, that a growing number of people are scratching their heads over our Government's increasingly unpopular strategy on Covid-19? Or questioning the policy on a public health interest that is no longer serving the majority of the public’s interests?
As to the conspiracies, there are of course some politicians who will seize this disaster as an opportunity to further their dubious goals, but I am certainly not of the opinion that nearly every leader in the world is embroiled in some Machiavellian plot to reshape our global society.
When George Orwell's pigs went rogue on Animal Farm, it wasn't the result of a devious plan from the start. It was an allegory for the inevitability of human nature. Boris Johnson very probably does realise by now that this China-exported pandemic strategy hasn't worked, but reasons it's too late to dislodge the seeds planted by Project Fear.
We really are in dangerous territory now, and there are two concerns that I just can't shake off.
The first is our Government's continued refusal to paint a balanced picture of the ongoing situation. Statistics which put into perspective the small number of deaths now compared to at the peak of the pandemic, and indeed to the normal number of deaths we can expect to see at this time of year, are available; but they are not presented at Professor Chris Whitty’s weekly addresses to the nation. They are buried in lengthy Public Health England reports which most ordinary people won't seek out.
SAGE, meanwhile, has free licence to broadcast grandiose predictions across every TV and radio in Britain, based on models that have been proven wrong time and time again. This team has now had the best part of a year to prove itself worthy of such an influential platform. Enough.
Second, and arguably worse, is the near-censorship of dissenting scientific views as a result of regulatory body Ofcom's 'coronavirus guidelines', which effectively blocks the media from publishing professional, accredited, expert analysis - debate even - that doesn't toe SAGE’s party line.
Enough prominent, frustrated scientists this month banded together to launch The Great Barrington Declaration; a petition drawn up by professors at Oxford, Harvard and Stanford, and backed by tens of thousands of epidemiologists, public health scientists, and at least one Nobel Prize winner.
Its proposal, in a nutshell, is that those at-risk should be offered protection should they want it, but that the rest of the population should be encouraged to resume life as normal. Hardly outrageous, nor unprecedented – just ask Sweden.
I'd like to see this proposal get more air time. I'd like, every week, along with the figures on new Covid cases and deaths, to see the number of people who have also died as a direct result of lockdown; the mounting number of missed cancer screenings, the uptick in domestic abuse call-outs, and the rise in mental health emergencies.
I had a reader get in touch with me over the weekend; a young student at boarding school, who disagreed with my stance. She was intelligent and polite, and we had a constructive debate over Instagram. She suggested that it would be irresponsible to abandon lockdown and let the virus run its course, given more people would undoubtedly lose their lives. I asked what her position would be given the increasingly certain scenario that lockdown will ultimately kill more humans than it saves.
Forget even the UK; the United Nations predicts that this pandemic-induced recession could plunge as many as 420 million people into extreme poverty worldwide. Unsurprisingly, she hadn't heard this statistic or considered this angle. It's simply not on the news agenda. It should be. It's the sort of maths that should be just as front-and-centre at each press conference as the number of new positive cases each day.
This confounding scenario in which we find ourselves may not be a grand conspiracy, but it is a profound travesty. The sooner we start having honest conversations on the main stage about it, the better.
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For a travel writer, she certainly has strong opinions about science, e.g. her support of the discredited Great Barrington Declaration, which leans towards herd immunity.
While reading her screed, it struck me that Boris Johnson would have received far less criticism, had he followed the path of his US counterpart and denied the spread of the virus while abdicating leadership to local officials. This canny move allowed him to avoid all responsibility (an admirable quality in a leader, right?) for fighting the pandemic, while receiving full marks for loudly opining that the states needed to reopen.
Where would the UK be, if Boris had taken the smart route as his counterpart did? Would Britain be #1 in the race no one wants to win?
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The roads are still busy in our second lockdown. Boris the Buffoon should have locked down a lot earlier, but I guess he wanted to make sure he told all his friends first what to do with shares....only allegedly though
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The roads are still busy in our second lockdown. Boris the Buffoon should have locked down a lot earlier,
I say it wouldn't have made much difference.....apart from plunge the economy into further trouble. Look at what's happening here 8 months after lockdown started.
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I say it wouldn't have made much difference.....apart from plunge the economy into further trouble. Look at what's happening here 8 months after lockdown started.
If we had taken the same route as Australia, S. Korea and New Zealand, it would have been a lot better
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Do you prefer your coronavirus from a bat or a mink? (And are the Danes drinking mink soup?!?)
Britain has closed its door to people arriving from Denmark because of a new strain of the virus that has spread in mink farms, and has jumped to humans. Or possibly jumped from humans to minks to humans.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/art…mail_6518692_11081625_144
I certainly hope a new season of Borgen is already in production.
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Why are Minks being farmed anyway?
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Because of all the regulations on pig farming!
(Sorry - an “in” joke for those who have watched Borgen)
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I guess for fur coats.
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[This isn’t a political post; rather, an update on one of the countries covered in this thread, the USA, whose new President Elect has announced a plan for aggressively going after the coronavirus. Because of the strict firewall, I’m cutting & pasting the whole thing.]
QuoteHere’s how Joe Biden’s victory will change coronavirus strategy
There’s not a lot that President-elect Joe Biden can do to quell the rising swell of coronavirus cases now crashing across much of the United States, but he is already planning his response for what will surely be a tough winter.
In his victory speech on Saturday, Biden pledged to name a coronavirus advisory group on Monday. The group, he said, would consist of scientists and other experts, and would take a COVID plan formulated during the campaign and convert it into a “blueprint” that can be immediately implemented when he takes office Jan. 20.
“Our work begins with getting COVID under control,” Biden told the cheering crowd in Wilmington, Del.
Many public health experts said Biden should also reach out right away to governors and local leaders across the country to encourage universal masking. Ideally he could get a few Republican governors to back him up, especially in hard-hit states where residents have resisted wearing masks.
Biden also needs to confront the spread of misinformation and devaluation of science that has driven much of the current administration’s response to the pandemic, public health experts said. He can do that by speaking often and plainly from his new position of pending authority about the threat of the virus and the simple measures everyone can do to prevent spread of disease.
“I think the pandemic is his No. 1 priority right out of the gate. He’s got to get control of this virus,” said Dr. Warner Greene, an infectious disease expert with the Gladstone Institutes, an independent research group in San Francisco.
“He does have one hand tied behind his back because he’s not president yet, and this President (Trump) is not going to retire easily,” Greene said. “Biden has ideas for things to do, but those were campaign promises. He needs to move away from campaigning and toward governing. This is his first opportunity to show the country how he wants to change things.”
Biden outlined his plans for attacking the pandemic during his campaign, including ramping up testing and increasing national stockpiles of resources like ventilators and personal protective equipment. He has said he would rejoin the World Health Organization immediately.
Much of Biden’s plan can’t be put into effect until he’s in the White House — nearly three months from now. Meanwhile, the pandemic is raging across the country, with more than 100,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths reported a day. The winter months, when everyone is driven inside and the holidays make it hard to socially isolate, may be even worse.
Biden can’t afford to wait until Inauguration Day to take action, public health experts said.
“You want to hit the ground running on Jan. 20,” said Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a professor of medical ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania. He spoke during a UCSF virtual meeting on the next president’s pandemic response on Thursday.
Biden needs to spend the coming months lining up staff and getting detailed surveillance on the pandemic in the U.S., Emanuel said. He needs to understand the current state of testing, contact tracing, and equipment supply chains, as well as what plans have been made to distribute vaccines.
“And there’s also the issue of rebuilding the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the scientific integrity of the public health response,” Emanuel said. “All of those are going to be top of his agenda.”
Several experts said Biden would be well-advised to start with a call to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert whom Biden has already said he would lean on heavily in his pandemic response.
Other key people will include former U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy and former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner David Kessler. A Biden campaign officials said Sunday on “Meet the Press” that the two will lead the coronavirus task force.
Another priority should be masks, UCSF infectious disease expert George Rutherford and others said. Biden has said he would consider a national mask mandate, though it’s not clear what authority he would have as president to make that happen. And many public health experts say they wouldn’t recommend that approach.
Rather, he should continue to wear masks himself in public spaces, and also try to get local “influencers,” such as church leaders and young activists, to back him up, they say.
“A mandate may not work well, but we could have clear guidelines instead of all this mushiness. The current leadership isn’t coming out clearly and saying you should wear a mask,” said Shannon Bennett, chief of science with the California Academy of Sciences.
Biden would be wise to connect with all 50 governors and other state and local leaders over the next two-and-a-half months, both to encourage them to embrace universal mask recommendations, but also to take stock of their regional concerns, whether it’s a collapsing local economy or pressure to keep schools open or lack of hospital supplies.
Even California, which largely has been spared the worst effects of a disjointed national strategy so far, could benefit from a steadier supply of federal resources, public health experts said.
Biden needs to go on a national, virtual listening tour, said Andy Slavitt, former director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid under the Obama administration, who also spoke during Thursday’s UCSF meeting.
“I would probably lean in hard to this, even during the transition, if I were him,” Slavitt said. “We’ve lost a sense of unity, we’ve got this fetish with freedom and rights now. How do you as a president come in and start to calm the waters and get people on the same page?”
Dr. Robert Wachter, chair of the UCSF Department of Medicine, said Biden surely is aware that his powers to change minds and get people to embrace science and public health guidance will be limited somewhat, even after he’s president.
This election and Biden’s narrow win are demonstration enough of how divided the country is, Wachter and others noted. That polarity has deeply influenced people’s attitudes toward the pandemic. To win widespread support, a national pandemic plan will require buy-in from neighborhood Republicans on up.
“He knows and his people know that this can’t all be done from the bully pulpit of the White House,” Wachter said. “It has to be owned locally.”
Nonetheless, Biden can start nudging Americans toward a safer, healthier response to the pandemic, Wachter and others said. His best approach is the one he’s already embraced: modeling good behavior.
With that in mind, one of his first acts as president-elect may come as a disappointment to his supporters.
“First thing, he should discourage big celebrations and big parties of his constituents,” Bennett said. “Everyone’s going to want to get together and celebrate his win. It will be so hard to have to ask people to keep it safe, but I think that’s the tough call he’s got to make. That’s his first big opportunity to show his leadership.”
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Hopefully, a sense of stable normality will prevail after Jan 20.
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Sweden will reduce the limit on public gatherings to eight people from 300, as part of a new approach that runs counter to the country’s previously lax virus restrictions.
Source: NY Times 16 November 2020.
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China, Germany, and Poor Pitiful Putin:
China has seized on claims that Covid-19 was circulating in Italy last September as evidence that it may not be to blame for giving the world the virus.
German police used water cannons to try to break up an illegal rally of up to 14,000 protesters around the Brandenburg Gate during a furious parliamentary debate over the government's pandemic bill. One prominent right-wing MP described the bill as the doorway to a "health dictatorship".
President Putin is desperate for human contactafter spending the majority of the year in near isolation at his coronavirus-proof residency near Moscow, the Kremlin has said.
Source: The Times, 19 November 2020
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Alarm is growing in Sweden that its light touch approach to managing the pandemic has failed as the per capita infection rate rises above Britain's.
Source: The Times, November 20, 2020
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Recent announcement from The Boot Inn (a pub in Ludlow, UK) which I'm still trying to get my head around:
QuoteFollowing yesterdays news that Herefordshire is in Tier 2, we can now put in place our plans for reopening to the public and welcome you all back in the safest way possible.
Please note, we are unable to have ANY mixed households (unless you are in a support bubble) indoors and alcohol can only be served with food.
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Apparently the tier system is causing distress, with pub owners saying it is much easier to maintain social distancing there than in sops. Now if someone would just make available masks with valved straws -
And I’m still trying to get my head around pubs that can’t serve a pint without selling accompanying food.
This morning’s Times newsletter brought the following COVID news from around the world:
North Korean cyber criminals are suspected of targeting AstraZeneca, the British Covid-19 vaccine company. Hackers posing as headhunters contacted the pharmaceutical giant's staff on Linkedin and Whatsapp with fake job offers aimed at luring them to provide access to their computers.
China is to put its neighbours first in line when it comes to Covid-19 vaccines being developed in the country. President Xi said the country would give priority to trading partners Japan, South Korea, Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.
Denmark is planning to exhume and burn the bodies of up to 17 million minks who were killed and buried after a mutated form of coronavirus was found. Emergency approval is being sought from the environment agency over fears that a large amount of phosphorous and nitrogen could seep into the soil.
A Belgium study has shown that nearly half of 2,662 hospital workers who contracted Covid-19 had lost all antibodies within five months. Researchers at the Universitair Ziekenhuis in Brussels could not define specific factors as to why one person lost the antibodies and another retained them, and said that antibodies are not the only aspect that determines the strength of an immune system.
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Debenhams and Top Shop in the UK have gone into administration, which is a sad day for the high street, although both were struggling pre-pandemic.
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Debenhams and Top Shop in the UK have gone into administration, which is a sad day for the high street, although both were struggling pre-pandemic.
Sad to see many jobs will be lost . Unlikely that Philip Green the main shareholder will be badly affected - he will probably buy it back from the receiver......
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