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Falklands/Malvinas Day

  • Splinter
  • April 2, 2019 at 7:36 AM

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    • April 2, 2019 at 7:36 AM
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    It's 37 years since Argentina illegally invaded the Falkland Islands and today is marked as a commemoration, yet for some, it's cause for celebration.

    Apparently, many islanders joke that they should have put up a statue of Galtieri instead of Thatcher, because in the end, the war did them all a huge favour.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 9:25 AM
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    Such a pointless war and a waste of life. It also entrenched a nation into a sense of false-bitterness and ill-thought out patriotism.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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    Trying to give a balanced sense of history to my Argentine born son. They get one very slanted version at school . I give him a neutral version , albeit with a possibly skewed UK bias.

    I asked him to think about what the people born there wanted....

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    • April 2, 2019 at 9:49 AM
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    If I look back in history , I would have given the Falklands Islands away to Argentina in 1981

    But 1982 changed all that...….

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    • April 2, 2019 at 9:52 AM
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    In 82 I lived in Spain and my neighbor was Argentine. All our Spanish neighbours expected us to fight and argue.

    But we disappointed them . In the bar de la esquina most nights for a beer , joke telling sessions and some friendly political debate.

    We are still friends to this day.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 10:24 AM
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    The wife used to jokingly say they rightly belong to Argentina. She now admits it's good job they aren't as they can't even manage their own affairs properly. :D

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    • April 2, 2019 at 10:29 AM
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    The wife used to jokingly say they rightly belong to Argentina. She now admits it's good job they aren't as they can't even manage their own affairs properly. :D

    Exactly my husband's take on the issue.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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    I think its a good chance the islands would be Argentine by now if they hadn't invaded. They just take it so seriously here, and I know its war and that seems flippant, but other countries seem to move on more easily. I genuinely believe there is little reason for the Argentine people to hate the British (English to be fair) as much as they do.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 12:57 PM
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    I think its a good chance the islands would be Argentine by now if they hadn't invaded. They just take it so seriously here, and I know its war and that seems flippant, but other countries seem to move on more easily. I genuinely believe there is little reason for the Argentine people to hate the British (English to be fair) as much as they do.

    Yet many Argentines like to walk around wearing Union Jack tee shirts because they think it's cool.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 2:37 PM
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    Probably more jealous of the Brits than anything else because of the mess they've made of running their own country.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 3:18 PM
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    If you read the Clarin articles like this one, you'll see that they insist on pointing out that the Falklands don't have any signs of Argentine-ness (sic) at all. (Sin rastros de argentinidad)

    What do they expect?

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    • April 2, 2019 at 3:21 PM
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    If you read the Clarin articles like this one, you'll see that they insist on pointing out that the Falklands don't have any signs of Argenine-ness (sic) at all. (Sin rastros de argentinidad)

    What do they expect?

    Funny that, the UK also doesn't have signs of Argentine-ness. Now that I think of it, Argentina doesn't have signs of UK-ness either. I am scratching my head thinking why a foregin country would not have any signs of another country.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 3:42 PM
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    Actually, the railroads and the railway stations in zona norte are very British.


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    • April 2, 2019 at 7:03 PM
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    Clarin has certainly got its knickers in a twist with the leader article entitled "Millionaire Kelpers, and Argentines who bite their lips in silence about their own nationality."

    This is presumably referring to Argentines who live on the islands and we're all supposed to dish out sympathy?

    This photo is good and it's from a drone video of Port Stanley, shot by Clarin, in the above article.

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    • April 2, 2019 at 7:40 PM
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    Quote from Splinter

    It's 37 years since Argentina illegally invaded the Falkland Islands and today is marked as a commemoration, yet for some, it's cause for celebration.

    Surely no one in Argentina is celebrating. Probably just memorializing the dead?

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    I expect Boris Johnson is shitting himself.

    https://twitter.com/CancilleriaARG/status/1371868358350663692/

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    Does the average Argentine actually care enough about this for its to be wheeled out by the government every few months? On the list of issues Argentines worry about, this must be fairly low down for most people, right?

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    Does the average Argentine actually care enough about this for its to be wheeled out by the government every few months? On the list of issues Argentines worry about, this must be fairly low down for most people, right?

    No, the average Argentine doesn't care, but read this nonsense:

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    In that sense, from the portfolio headed by Felipe Solá, they accused Johnson of maintaining the occupation. “Under the argument not recognized by the United Nations to defend the 'right to self-determination', the United Kingdom maintains the illegitimate presence in the South Atlantic, with the aim of appropriating the wealth that exists there and controlling both access to the Antarctica as well as the bi-oceanic passage between the Atlantic and the Pacific ”, says the statement.

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    https://tn.com.ar/politica/2021/…islas-malvinas/

    Self-determination is exactly what the Falkland islanders have, in fact.

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    Does the average Argentine actually care enough about this for its to be wheeled out by the government every few months? On the list of issues Argentines worry about, this must be fairly low down for most people, right?

    You have to remember that they have been brainwashed from a very early age that the islands belong to them.

    Given that no one tries to give them an alternative view of history, it is likely to stay that way.

    Don't talk about the human rights of the people who live there or that Argentina wasn't an independent country when the UK took control because thye dont want to listen.

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    • March 16, 2021 at 5:26 PM
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    I am not a history buff and I couldn't care less about the issue. My husband is convinced that they islands should be indeed Argentinians but are better off being British.

    He gave me a reasoned answer based on who arrived on the islands first and who was in charge when the British conquered them.

    I don't really remember why with 'conquered' it can't be settled 'they now belong to', though.

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